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Germany is not supporting ChatControl – blocking minority secured

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1121 points xyzal | 6 comments | 11 Sep 25 08:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.927s | source | bottom
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ManBeardPc ◴[11 Sep 25 09:27 UTC] No.45209514[source]▶
Glad we could delay it for now. It will come back again and again with that high of support though. Also the German Bundestag is already discussing a compromise: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356. They are only unhappy with certain points like breaking encryption. They still want to destroy privacy and cut back our rights in the name of "safety", just a little less.
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uyzstvqs ◴[11 Sep 25 09:55 UTC] No.45209691[source]▶
The bigger issue is that we need to make the EU actually democratic. Start by removing every branch but the European Parliament. That's the only solution.
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1. hnhg ◴[11 Sep 25 10:22 UTC] No.45209875[source]▶
And neuter the influence of deep-pocketed lobbying entities - US entities in particular seem to spend a lot of money on influencing EU politics: https://www.lobbyfacts.eu/
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2. amelius ◴[11 Sep 25 10:33 UTC] No.45209926[source]▶
Wow, Apple paid 7M for 9 people to have 144 meetings with the EC. I'm in the wrong line of business.

On the other hand, I'm thinking can we find 9 unpaid volunteers on HN to do the same?

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3. pas ◴[11 Sep 25 11:36 UTC] No.45210350[source]▶
yes, the obvious problem is that Apple paid people so in turn they worked to make these meetings happen, HN doesn't pay random people (yet!?) to knock on doors in various EU cities.

the "obvious" solution seems to be to make these meetings open, sure industry wants to push their thing, put it on the calendar, and let civil society delegate someone, and industry pays for that too.

4. HPsquared ◴[11 Sep 25 11:54 UTC] No.45210500[source]▶
You're assuming the lobbyists keep that money.
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5. amelius ◴[11 Sep 25 11:56 UTC] No.45210515{3}[source]▶
What you're thinking of would be illegal, but indeed.
6. jb1991 ◴[11 Sep 25 12:06 UTC] No.45210584[source]▶
This site even has a disclaimer on the front page that its information is not necessarily accurate. Take it all with a grain of salt.