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Germany is not supporting ChatControl – blocking minority secured

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1121 points xyzal | 2 comments | 11 Sep 25 08:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.417s | source
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ManBeardPc ◴[11 Sep 25 09:27 UTC] No.45209514[source]▶
Glad we could delay it for now. It will come back again and again with that high of support though. Also the German Bundestag is already discussing a compromise: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356. They are only unhappy with certain points like breaking encryption. They still want to destroy privacy and cut back our rights in the name of "safety", just a little less.
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uyzstvqs ◴[11 Sep 25 09:55 UTC] No.45209691[source]▶
The bigger issue is that we need to make the EU actually democratic. Start by removing every branch but the European Parliament. That's the only solution.
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1. tannhaeuser ◴[11 Sep 25 10:21 UTC] No.45209870[source]▶
The postulate for EU structural reform towards perfection is typical of HN and other nerds drooling over their programming language and frameworks ;) but in real life had been tried with the Lisboa treaty to the extent it was deemed possible, and no-one involved with it wants to reopen the case. I'm also sometimes angry at EU as well, but the reality is there are over twenty member states, with their constitutions, languages, democratic and other traditions such as federalism and minority rules, bilateral treatments, special interests, and backroom deals to take care of. It's a miracle the EU exists at all.
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2. raxxorraxor ◴[11 Sep 25 12:41 UTC] No.45210872[source]▶
I don't think much abstraction or design is needed. We are looking at the output here and that is chat control. The EU will have to be measured against this output.

The unpopular legislative processes are pushed through via the EU isn't something new. And it is a very serious flaw that needs to be fixed.