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mrtksn ◴[] No.45209571[source]
IIRC It's Denmark that keeps pushing for this. Is there anyone here to give more background on that?
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tucnak ◴[] No.45209711[source]
The unfortunate reality is that a single largest lobbyist for Chat Control in the EU is, ironically, the US, namely the US intel community-affiliated orgs like Thorn, WeProtect, etc. The EU bureaucrats are gullible, and it's no excuse of course, however there's a reason why every time there's a new driver, a new country behind Chat Control proposals. This has been part of coordinated U.S. signals collection strategy. Nobody in Europe stands to gain anything from this besides the US as all tech solutions for this are provided by US companies and agencies alone. The boards of these orgs are crawling with Washington guys, & their activity is limited to foreign countries. Not once have they attempted anything of the sort on US soil.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=44929535

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1. mrtksn ◴[] No.45209727[source]
Hmm, maybe the anti-chatControl movement should add some anti-Americanism in it then?
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2. tucnak ◴[] No.45209778[source]
I reckon that would only serve to play into their hands. There is just enough plausible deniability for conspiracy-theory optics. Moreover, European politicians really hate to be publicly humiliated like that, so it might as well achieve the opposite from desired effect. The Balkan Insight findings, among other journalistic results, were published years ago, and it had little, if any effect. The audience that would resonate with anti-American messaging on the subject are already catalysed contra ChatControl, and the undecided would just read this as conspiracy theory...