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1. Hamuko ◴[] No.45209453[source]
Glad that my country (Finland) is also on the correct side of this. Disappointed that our Nordic and Baltic neighbours are not though. Would've expected more, especially from Estonia.
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2. jeltz ◴[] No.45209488[source]
Sweden and Denmark are some of the main drivers of this proposal. As a Swede I am a bit unclear why as while our politicians are quite pro-survelliance they have spent much more political capital than reasonable.

One possible reason seems to be lobbyism and shady connections to surveillance tech companies and various shady non-profits

https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...

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3. ahartmetz ◴[] No.45209531[source]
> Johansson, however, has not blinked. “The privacy advocates sound very loud,” the commissioner said in a speech in November 2021. “But someone must also speak for the children.”

Literal "Won't anybody think of the children" moment.

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5. supermatt ◴[] No.45209862[source]
> Disappointed that our Nordic and Baltic neighbours are not though

Why do you think the Baltics are in favour? Are there some announcements they have made?

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7. BoredPositron ◴[] No.45209918[source]
Edit: You were totally right Matt. Brain fart.
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8. inamorty ◴[] No.45210097{4}[source]
Sweden has been at the forefront of this iteration: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/regeringen-gar-vidare-med...
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9. supermatt ◴[] No.45210120{5}[source]
Sweden isn’t one of the Baltics
10. Hamuko ◴[] No.45210756[source]
Because that’s what the link says.
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11. supermatt ◴[] No.45210852{3}[source]
What link?
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12. Hamuko ◴[] No.45210898{4}[source]
The one in this submission? The one that we're commenting on?
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14. supermatt ◴[] No.45211006{5}[source]
The link in the submission is saying that the representatives position is mostly unknown for all the Baltics (Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia).

For Finland it says only 3 of 15 have opposed - which is clearly not a majority.

The “assumption” based on government position has no reference to any stated government position (I know for a fact Lithuania have expressed no such opinion, and can’t find anything related to Latvia or Estonia having done so either) - and also “assumes” all representatives (that are from different parties) are aligned, which they most likely aren’t.