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jawns ◴[] No.45187038[source]
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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shermozle ◴[] No.45190184[source]
It's far from fair given that if _I_ breach copyright and get caught, I go to jail, not just pay a fine.
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dragonwriter ◴[] No.45190669[source]
> It's far from fair given that if _I_ breach copyright and get caught, I go to jail, not just pay a fine.

This settlement has nothing to do with any criminal liability Anrhropic might have, only tort liability (and it doesn’t involves damages, not fines.)

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stingraycharles ◴[] No.45190918[source]
Also, you can’t put a business in jail.
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echoangle ◴[] No.45191068[source]
But you can put the people that made the decision or are responsible for it in jail (or prison).
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Draiken ◴[] No.45191142{3}[source]
Isn't this wishful thinking? This basically never happens. Theory vs reality is very real.
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zzzeek ◴[] No.45191362{4}[source]
Huh ? Ask Sam Bankman-Fried, ask Enron, people go to jail for corporate crime all the time, are you meaning just for copyright infringement?
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digdugdirk ◴[] No.45191885{5}[source]
Please, name 5 more "big name" examples.
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YetAnotherNick ◴[] No.45192652{6}[source]
Asked AI:

- Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX): Sentenced to 25 years in prison in 2024 for orchestrating a massive fraud involving the misappropriation of billions in customer funds.

- Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos): Began an 11-year prison sentence in 2023 after being convicted of defrauding investors with false claims about her blood-testing technology.

- Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani (Theranos): The former president of Theranos was sentenced to nearly 13 years in prison for his role in the same fraud as Elizabeth Holmes.

- Trevor Milton (Nikola Corporation): Convicted of securities and wire fraud, he was sentenced to four years in prison in 2023.

- Ippei Mizuhara: The former translator for MLB star Shohei Ohtani was charged in April 2024 with bank fraud for illegally transferring millions from the athlete's account.

- Sergei Potapenko and Ivan Turogin: Convicted in February 2025 for a $577 million cryptocurrency fraud scheme.

- Bernard Madoff: Sentenced to 150 years in prison in 2009 for running the largest Ponzi scheme in history. He died in prison in 2021.

- Jeffrey Skilling (Enron): The former CEO of Enron was sentenced to 24 years in prison in 2006 for fraud and conspiracy. His sentence was later reduced, and he was released in 2019.

- Dennis Kozlowski (Tyco International): The former CEO served over six years in prison after being convicted in 2005 for looting millions from the company.

- Bernard "Bernie" Ebbers (WorldCom): Sentenced to 25 years in prison for orchestrating an $11 billion accounting fraud. He was granted early release in 2019 and died shortly after.

Apart from this list I know Nissan's ex CEO was put into solitary confinement for months.

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nobody9999 ◴[] No.45193094{7}[source]
Who went to prison from Union Carbide for the Bhopal disaster[0]?

Who went to prison from Exxon for the Valdez oil spill[1], or from BP for the Deep Water Horizon[2] debacle?

Who went to prison from Norfolk-Southern for the East Palestine train derailment[3]?

Who went to prison from Boeing for the 737Max debacle[4]?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Palestine%2C_Ohio%2C_trai...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX_groundings

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YetAnotherNick ◴[] No.45194151{8}[source]
Not sure why you rebutting my post or why it is getting downvoted. I just answered the question that asked of list of 5 people who went to jail for corporate crime. I never commented they go to jail every time they deserve(or even most of the time for that matter).
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maxbond ◴[] No.45194578{9}[source]
People generally downvote large blocks of generated text. Perhaps it wasn't your intention to argue for a particular position, but given the context, it's the natural inference. So some downvotes may be because they disagree with the position you appear to be arguing for.

If you want to neutrally answer a rhetorical question in the context of a debate, you're going to have to disclaim that somehow. Otherwise, there's no way for us to know, and the comment walks and talks like an argument.

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YetAnotherNick ◴[] No.45203619{10}[source]
The argument was whether executives go to jail and the answer is yes and I believe people in HN wrongly think executives are overpreviliged/immune in this case, that's why I bothered to comment. The argument above my thread was never if they "always" go to jail. I would even say normal people don't always go to jail when they deserve.
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1. maxbond ◴[] No.45204344{11}[source]
Then I'm confused why you would express surprise at receiving pushback if your intention was to enter a contentious debate? But you do you.