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Anthropic judge rejects $1.5B AI copyright settlement

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290 points nobody9999 | 1 comments | 09 Sep 25 08:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jawns ◴[09 Sep 25 19:02 UTC] No.45187038[source]▶
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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shermozle ◴[09 Sep 25 22:25 UTC] No.45190184[source]▶
It's far from fair given that if _I_ breach copyright and get caught, I go to jail, not just pay a fine.
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dragonwriter ◴[09 Sep 25 23:04 UTC] No.45190669[source]▶
> It's far from fair given that if _I_ breach copyright and get caught, I go to jail, not just pay a fine.

This settlement has nothing to do with any criminal liability Anrhropic might have, only tort liability (and it doesn’t involves damages, not fines.)

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stingraycharles ◴[09 Sep 25 23:26 UTC] No.45190918[source]▶
Also, you can’t put a business in jail.
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echoangle ◴[09 Sep 25 23:41 UTC] No.45191068[source]▶
But you can put the people that made the decision or are responsible for it in jail (or prison).
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Draiken ◴[09 Sep 25 23:49 UTC] No.45191142{3}[source]▶
Isn't this wishful thinking? This basically never happens. Theory vs reality is very real.
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zzzeek ◴[10 Sep 25 00:12 UTC] No.45191362{4}[source]▶
Huh ? Ask Sam Bankman-Fried, ask Enron, people go to jail for corporate crime all the time, are you meaning just for copyright infringement?
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nerdsniper ◴[10 Sep 25 05:04 UTC] No.45193510{5}[source]▶
The examples you mention are all of someone stealing from the rich. But otherwise, even the most blatant obstruction of justice goes unanswered.

“Greyball”: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/technology/uber-greyball-...

My uncle went to jail for picking up someone in an airport in his taxi. He didnt have the airport permit (could only drop off, not pick up). Travis Kalanick industrialized that crime on a grand scale and got billions of dollars instead of jail.

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1. omnimus ◴[10 Sep 25 19:41 UTC] No.45202596{6}[source]▶
Aaron Swartz downloaded big part of JSTOR to make a statistical model for some research, was charged with hacking felony and committed suicide because of it. Sam Altman downloaded all of JSTOR and then rest of the internet to make a statistical model to make a commercial product. He is praised for it.

The lesson is clear. Don't make things that don't make money to the already rich.