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jawns ◴[] No.45187038[source]
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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midnitewarrior ◴[] No.45192404[source]
What's more fair is for Anthropic to put 5% of their preferred shares at their most recent valuation into a pool that the authors of these books can make a claim against. For 18 months, any author in this cache of books can claim their ownership and rights to their proportional amount of the shares within all claimants.

Perhaps tokenize all of the books and assign proportionally for token count of each publication.

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xvector ◴[] No.45194655[source]
What a ridiculous assertion. They're already getting 100-1000x the value of their books. Truly bloodlust knows no bounds.
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1. midnitewarrior ◴[] No.45196607[source]
There would be no Claude without training data. None of these authors consented to their works being stolen, and there is no recourse to get their works unstolen.

If their works are so insignificant to Claude, just remove them from Claude and retrain. It's that simple. Claude is 100% the product of the works that were stolen, just as much as it is the product of the software developers and investors.

All the employees just got a million dollar bonus. The authors spent their entire lives up to the point of publishing each work refining their ideas, investing in education and experiences that allowed them to create their works that were stolen. If the result of that theft is a massive wealth-building AI machine, it makes sense that they should benefit from the ongoing use of their work.

Anthropic had a chance at licensing these works the standard way, and chose to skip it. Do you think the consequences of this should be that under court order they receive money that is likely the same or less than they would have negotiated had Anthropic not stolen from them?

Why would anyone hesitate to steal other publications if their only punishment is that on the off-chamce they get caught, they have to pay what they would have anyway? That's the ridiculous assertion.

> 100-1000x the value of their books

They would be getting 5% the value of their books. Claude without those books is nothing. Take all the books away from Claude and you can understand the true value they contributed.