←back to thread

129 points Varun08 | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.407s | source
Show context
cramsession ◴[] No.45190469[source]
The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Even which ideas are worth pursuing is an intuition you build up over years. "Vibe" coding really is magic and I'm highly scaled, but I don't see how it could possibly work for all but the most senior developers. In some sense, it's like writing LISP macros on steroids.
replies(10): >>45190657 #>>45190885 #>>45191035 #>>45191109 #>>45191139 #>>45191169 #>>45191530 #>>45191570 #>>45192419 #>>45196027 #
cortesoft ◴[] No.45190885[source]
I 100% agree that this is how the experience is right now.

I don't necessarily think it will stay this way, though. The tools are so new, we shouldn't be so sure that the future versions won't allow non-coders to code successfully.

replies(4): >>45190980 #>>45190984 #>>45191033 #>>45192734 #
1. actsasbuffoon ◴[] No.45192734[source]
I disagree, at least for the next 5 years or so.

Even with humans, it’s very common to ask them for something and get something back that’s completely different than what you wanted. Short of reading your mind, AI is going to require a lot of info to get the desired result.

So someone is going to have to gather requirements and break them down into a clear, well thought out set of instructions for the computer. That’s literally what programmers already do. We’re just programming in a different language now.

replies(1): >>45194115 #
2. sixtyj ◴[] No.45194115[source]
In the past, we depended on editors that were easy to switch. Now coders are becoming dependent on tools that are hard to switch off.

And I’ve realized that even when I try to stay in control, I often don’t read the output code—I just copy and paste.

Metaphorically, it’s like pilots who know how to use the autopilot, but can’t switch back to manual control. That’s the generation of coders we’re raising.