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jawns ◴[] No.45187038[source]
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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tartoran ◴[] No.45187839[source]
> I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out.

It may be fair to you but how about other authors? Maybe it's not fair at all to them.

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terminalshort ◴[] No.45189724[source]
Do they sell their books for more than $3000 per copy? In that case it isn't fair. Otherwise they are getting a windfall because of Anthropic's stupidity in not buying the books.
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godelski ◴[] No.45190191[source]

  | Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.[0]
Please don't be disingenuous. You know that none of the authors were selling their books for $3k a piece, so obviously this is about something more

  > because of Anthropic's stupidity in not buying the books.
And what about OpenAI, who did the same thing?

What about Meta, who did the same thing?

What about Google, who did the same thing?

What about Nvidia, who did the same thing?

Clearly something should be done because it's not like these companies can't afford the cost of the books. I mean Meta recently hired people giving out >$100m packages and bought a data company for $15bn. Do you think they can't afford to buy the books, videos, or even the porn? We're talking about trillion dollar companies.

It's been what, a year since Eric Schmidt said to steal everything and let the lawyers figure it out if you become successful?[1] Personal I'm not a big fan of "the ends justify the means" arguments. It's led to a lot of unrest, theft, wars, and death.

Do you really not think it's possible to make useful products ethically?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/14/24220658/google-eric-schm...

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1. kelnos ◴[] No.45191515[source]
> And what about $OTHER_AI_COMPANY, who did the same thing?

If there's evidence of this that will stand up in court, they should be sued as well, and they'll presumably lose. If this hasn't happened, or isn't in the works, then I guess they covered their tracks well enough. That's unfortunate, but that's life.

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2. godelski ◴[] No.45193795[source]
I mean they are being sued? I provided a long list of HN links in the sibling comment. But you know... you can also check Google[0]

[0] https://gprivate.com/6ib6y