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lordnacho ◴[] No.45190513[source]
> at first i was very hopeful i can finally 'build' now with my minimal tech skills

This is the problem. If you couldn't have coded it slowly in the old world, you will have problems coding it in AI world.

However if you have a lot of coding experience, you can now compress the time it would have taken you be an enormous amount. My experience is that I can now make extensive changes with very little effort, and very few dead ends. I've been able to take on entire secondary projects where I was just replication existing knowledge with slightly different tools.

Just this week I had a litmus test. I had an existing database that I'm pushing huge amount of data to. I decided to try a different underlying database. This would have taken me a full week of looking at documentation and writing supporting scripts, now I've done it in the spare time I had in two days of my actual work.

And it's not like the AI just did it all unsupervised. It threatened to do down the wrong path a few times, but each time I spotted it and steered it the way I wanted. I also asked it a few questions about curiosities I discovered in the emitted code, and that led to fixes as well.

If I didn't know how to code before, I would still be coding this alternative database.

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lawlessone ◴[] No.45190600[source]
This will be a big problem in the future if it means more companies choosing not to hire/train juniors.

Eventually all the experienced people will be dead or retired.

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1. chamomeal ◴[] No.45190940[source]
Idk I honestly feel like it makes junior developers more valuable. Junior are devs are often a cost as make as an asset, cause they take a lot of time and attention away from senior devs.

Now a junior can ask an AI like 90% of questions that would otherwise occupy a senior:

- Why does this dockerfile copy these files first? - how can I find the entrypoints to this service? - is there anything related to image processing in this entire project?

LLMs let juniors punch above their weight, and it lets seniors go faster. Of course if everybody is twice as efficient, you don’t need as many devs (debatable), but I don’t think junior devs are going anywhere. I hear a lot of CEO hype posts saying junior devs are outdated, but idk it doesn’t make any sense to me!

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2. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.45191185[source]
>Now a junior can ask an AI like 90% of questions that would otherwise occupy a senior:

And how does a Junior in this kind of work gain the skills that transitions them to senior?

>I hear a lot of CEO hype posts saying junior devs are outdated, but idk it doesn’t make any sense to me!

well yes, they aren't making sense. Hence why I think this is all a bubble. Irrational markets and all that.

I don't know when it will burst, but even tech companis can't reject reality forever.

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3. thedevilslawyer ◴[] No.45193673[source]
> And how does a Junior in this kind of work gain the skills that transitions them to senior?

Um - by asking AI 90% of the time, and the senior 10% of the time. If anything, the senior can now mentor 10x the number of juniors.