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Anthropic judge rejects $1.5B AI copyright settlement

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290 points nobody9999 | 1 comments | 09 Sep 25 08:46 UTC | HN request time: 0.198s | source
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jawns ◴[09 Sep 25 19:02 UTC] No.45187038[source]▶
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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tartoran ◴[09 Sep 25 19:54 UTC] No.45187839[source]▶
> I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out.

It may be fair to you but how about other authors? Maybe it's not fair at all to them.

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terminalshort ◴[09 Sep 25 21:49 UTC] No.45189724[source]▶
Do they sell their books for more than $3000 per copy? In that case it isn't fair. Otherwise they are getting a windfall because of Anthropic's stupidity in not buying the books.
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giveita ◴[09 Sep 25 22:46 UTC] No.45190448[source]▶
If I copy your book and sell a million bootleg copies that compete directly with your book is that worth the $30 cover price?

This is what generative AI essentially is.

Maybe the payment should be $500/h (say $5k a page) to cover the cost of preparing a human verified dataset for anthropic.

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1. terminalshort ◴[09 Sep 25 23:03 UTC] No.45190663[source]▶
In that case the damages would be $3000 per copy you sold. Distributing copyrighted work is an entirely different category of offense than just simply downloading and consuming. Anthropic didn't distribute any copies, so the damages are limited to the one copy they pirated. That is not remotely what generative AI is, and it's why the judge ruled that it was perfectly legal to feed the books to the model.