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jawns ◴[] No.45187038[source]
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

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tartoran ◴[] No.45187839[source]
> I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out.

It may be fair to you but how about other authors? Maybe it's not fair at all to them.

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terminalshort ◴[] No.45189724[source]
Do they sell their books for more than $3000 per copy? In that case it isn't fair. Otherwise they are getting a windfall because of Anthropic's stupidity in not buying the books.
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giveita ◴[] No.45190448[source]
If I copy your book and sell a million bootleg copies that compete directly with your book is that worth the $30 cover price?

This is what generative AI essentially is.

Maybe the payment should be $500/h (say $5k a page) to cover the cost of preparing a human verified dataset for anthropic.

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1. aeon_ai ◴[] No.45190525[source]
It’s been determined that training is fair use by the same judge - Anthropic did in fact buy copies of books and train on those as well.

Thus the $3k per violation is still punitive at (conservatively) 100x the cost of the book.

Given that it is fair use, Authors do not have rights to restrict training on their works under copyright law alone.