←back to thread

290 points nobody9999 | 5 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
jawns ◴[] No.45187038[source]
I'm an author, and I've confirmed that 3 of my books are in the 500K dataset.

Thus, I stand to receive about $9,000 as a result of this settlement.

I think that's fair, considering that two of those books received advances under $20K and never earned out. Also, while I'm sure that Anthropic has benefited from training its models on this dataset, that doesn't necessarily mean that those models are a lasting asset.

replies(22): >>45187319 #>>45187366 #>>45187519 #>>45187839 #>>45188602 #>>45189683 #>>45189684 #>>45190184 #>>45190223 #>>45190237 #>>45190555 #>>45190731 #>>45191633 #>>45192016 #>>45192191 #>>45192348 #>>45192404 #>>45192630 #>>45193043 #>>45195516 #>>45201246 #>>45218895 #
thayne ◴[] No.45188602[source]
How much of that $9000 will go to your publisher?
replies(1): >>45188989 #
1. jawns ◴[] No.45188989[source]
Remains to be seen, but generally the holder of copyright is the author not the publisher.
replies(1): >>45189522 #
2. jonathanstrange ◴[] No.45189522[source]
That depends on the publishers and your standing with them. Many publishers want a copyright transfer agreement whereas others are fine with exclusive licensing rights. You can't transfer copyright in some countries (e.g. Germany) but you can in the US.
replies(2): >>45190668 #>>45192543 #
3. favorited ◴[] No.45190668[source]
Even though the US allows copyright assignment, none of the Big Five publishing houses in the US require it as part of a standard book deal, even with first-time authors. If you open any book or ebook to the copyright page, unless it's something like a reference book (which are frequently work-for-hire), it will say some variant of "© Author's Name."

Publishers get exclusive print publishing rights for a given market, typically get digital and audio publication rights for the same, and frequently get a handful of other rights like the ability to license it for publication in other markets. But ownership of the work is almost always retained by the author.

4. pclmulqdq ◴[] No.45192543[source]
I don't think you should work with a publisher who wants a copyright transfer. It is not part of standard book deals.
replies(1): >>45195161 #
5. vidarh ◴[] No.45195161{3}[source]
Even exclusive licensing rights very often have limitations to them such as a duration or requirements to keep the license, and people should be vary about working with a publisher who wants exclusive licensing without termination clauses that protects them as well.