iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again.

Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD really wasn'g great after the X's AMOLED. Since then, I've had the 13 Pro and 15 Pro, both have been great, even though both are a bit weak in the battery department. Now I'm again considering the base 17.

Not interested in the Air or the 17 Pro Max, and the 17 Pro doesn't really seem like it's worth the extra cost to me, since the base model seems really good this time around. At a glance, the things you get with the 17 Pro for extra 350€ (German pricing) are:

- Unibody, but same aluminum material

- Same size, same _exact_ screen (all specs match)

- A19 Pro chip vs A19 - relevant for gaming (I don't) or other highly intensive applications (video editing I guess? again, not something I do a lot of)

- Better camera system - arguably the only relevant thing for a daily driver here

- LiDAR - very limited usefulness, in my experience having it on the 15 Pro

- USB 3 with 10 Gbit speeds vs USB 2 speeds on the USB-C port - relevant if you transfer large files like ProRes video, for me it's basically only when doing local backups to the Mac to install iOS betas, so largely irrelevant

- 31 hours battery life vs 30 - marginal difference

- Same charging, connectivity, everything else really

Will likely end up visiting an Apple Store to fiddle with both options, and look at the co-pay prices that our company will offer, then decide. But so far, it's much less of a clear Pro choice than it was in the previous years.

It's not because your work gives you the opportunity to get a new iPhone that you *need* to get one... you can also downscale the consumerism, the planet is better that way

doesn't lidar help with closeup focusing?

I got lots of blurry closeups on older iphones.

It still doesn’t focus perfectly. Not convinced LiDAR helps that much

Phones default tonusing Through the Lens autofocus. This is closed-loop and pretty fastthese days. Only when it's too dark work effectively do they switch to lidar/tof open loop autofocus systems.

It's not because the site gives you a reply button that you need to press it... you can also downscale the server & energy usage, the "planet" is better that way

The year of the 11 lineup was the one year where the standard iPhone <LATEST_NUMBER> was a clear downgrade from last year's. It was a refresh of the iPhone XR from the previous year, which was the budget option compared to the flagship XS.

Yes, and the XS was the follow-up to the previous X and thus also the "Pro" model, before they were explicitly named as such. So my move that year was indeed a downgrade. Now I'm kind of worried of doing the same thing again - but spec-wise, the base 17 is really not at all a downgrade from my current 15 Pro, apart from the camera department.