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Signal Secure Backups

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988 points keyboardJones | 1 comments | 08 Sep 25 16:43 UTC | HN request time: 0.402s | source
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ktosobcy ◴[08 Sep 25 18:45 UTC] No.45172164[source]▶
> In the past, if you broke or lost your phone, your Signal message history was gone.

this and completly useless multi-device support is the reason I don't use Signal... Telegram is not fully e2ee but it's way more convenient here.

Even XMPP with PGP would be lightyears ahead.

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maqp ◴[08 Sep 25 19:09 UTC] No.45172502[source]▶
>"Telegram is not fully e2ee but it's way more convenient here."

Yeah convenient way to hand your data to a Russian oligarch.

PGP has no forward secrecy and OTR in XMPP lacks future secrecy, multi-device support etc.

Signal introducing end-to-end encrypted backups is exactly how Telegram should've done it decade ago.

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1. ktosobcy ◴[09 Sep 25 10:52 UTC] No.45180265[source]▶
Everything boils down to the thread model.

Not everyone is paranoid at extremum.

> PGP has no forward secrecy and OTR in XMPP lacks future secrecy, multi-device support etc.

Have you ever considered that perfect-forward-secrecy is not needed by 99% of the people? And PGP (OX) can be enough of encryption that gives you multi-device support.

Btw. OTR is long dead…