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ktallett ◴[] No.45167117[source]
These governments that block social media or control/monitor the internet to avoid critics of government or dissent, whether that be Nepal, Tunisia, Turkey, UK, Germany, China, Egypt, US, Russia, Israel, are always shocked when there is an uprising. Unsurprisingly when a government tries to control people this closely many will see the flaws in it and make a stand and rightly so whether that be digitally or in person. It's understandable why so many tech knowledgeable dissidents create or use apps that bypass ridiculous laws.
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Fricken[dead post] ◴[] No.45167234[source]
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Ajedi32 ◴[] No.45168408[source]
Interesting. Are you arguing in that case censorship would have been a good thing? Is there a principled stance to be made here, or is it just "people should have freedom of speech when I agree with their goals, and be censored if I don't"?
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thisislife2 ◴[] No.45170026[source]
Not OP, but I don't consider regulating social media as "censorship" at all because the nature of foreign owned social media platforms means that you do not know if it is your own citizens talking or some foreign agent with their own vested interest. Media and communication platforms in every country is regulated. All countries also have stricter regulations for foreign media and telecom companies. Online platforms - who are now media and communication platform - have somehow managed to wriggle by most governments so far, and even become dominant, without any oversights. That does not bode well for any country, including democratic ones. This kind of digital colonisation is the most egregious mistake made by the Global South, and they are just now waking up to it, hoping to reign it before it is too late.
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1. fluoridation ◴[] No.45173637[source]
>you do not know if it is your own citizens talking or some foreign agent with their own vested interest

You wouldn't know that if the site was from your own country either. Could you be sure your neighbor is not a foreign spy?

>I don't consider regulating social media as "censorship" at all

To clarify, you don't consider it censorship because you believe your government would make it more difficult for foreigners alone to use their speech, and never your own countrymen. You're either delusional or adorably naive.

Inevitably, censorship will get used against you, either to silence you or to silence speech you would want to hear. Anyone who calls for censorship is a useful idiot.

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2. thisislife2 ◴[] No.45174673[source]
I am just restating my faith in my country's democracy to protect my rights, than any private BigTech or foreign government. You, on the other hand, are deliberately ignoring that foreign media platforms have, and are, used for malicious purposes against a state.
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3. fluoridation ◴[] No.45174839[source]
I'm not ignoring it, I simply don't care. I recognize that misinformation is going to be spread and act accordingly, by fact-checking and suspending judgement. What you want is for a government entity to decide for you which statements are "true" and which are "false" and to be shown only the "true" ones. It's idiotic. Even if the government has your best interest in mind (which it doesn't; at any given time the ruling party is self-interested), outsourcing your critical thinking faculties is not something you should want.