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NPM debug and chalk packages compromised

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1369 points universesquid | 4 comments | 08 Sep 25 15:37 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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stathibus ◴[08 Sep 25 16:00 UTC] No.45169926[source]▶
As an outsider to the npm ecosystem, reading this list of packages is astonishing. Why do js people import someone else's npm module for every little trivial thing?
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paulddraper ◴[08 Sep 25 16:06 UTC] No.45169999[source]▶
Which of these would you prefer to reimplement?

Debug, chalk, ansi-styles?

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You can pretend like this is unique to JS ecosystem, but xz was compromised for 3 years.

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craftkiller ◴[08 Sep 25 16:20 UTC] No.45170201[source]▶
> You can pretend like this is unique to JS ecosystem, but xz was compromised for 3 years.

Okay, but you're not suggesting that a compression algorithm is the same scale as "is-arrayish". I don't think everyone should need to reimplement LZMA but installing a library to determine if a value is an array is bordering on satire.

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1. paulddraper ◴[08 Sep 25 19:37 UTC] No.45172881[source]▶
FWIW, is-arrayish is primarily an internal dependency. The author (Qix) depends on it for the packages that actually get used, liked color and error-ex.

But it's all one author.

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2. tkiolp4 ◴[08 Sep 25 20:06 UTC] No.45173271[source]▶
They should ban Qix.
3. craftkiller ◴[10 Sep 25 02:27 UTC] No.45192405[source]▶
It might be an internal dependency for this author, but package.json is only for direct dependencies, right? github shows is-arrayish is a direct dependency of thousands of repos: https://github.com/search?q=%22is-arrayish%22+path%253Apacka...
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4. paulddraper ◴[10 Sep 25 17:14 UTC] No.45200779[source]▶
Yes. And npm shows 1500 direct dependent packages. [1]

Vast majority are nothing. No stars, no downloads.

(IDK why. What I do know is that if you crack open the node_modules for any real project, is-arrayish will be there only because of one of the Qix packages.)

[1] https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-arrayish?activeTab=dependen...