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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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560 points whatsupdog | 2 comments | 08 Sep 25 11:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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netsharc ◴[08 Sep 25 11:39 UTC] No.45167080[source]▶
So where's the donkey and where's the cart.

It reads like: citizens have been protesting the government using social media, government desperate to curb dissent bans social media, dissent is now on the streets..

Or maybe it's as straightforward as the media has been reporting.

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MangoToupe ◴[08 Sep 25 11:48 UTC] No.45167146[source]▶
It also seems reasonable that companies have to follow local laws to operate there. Corporations superseding states seems just as dystopian as state repression of dissent. Granted, there is either confusion or misrepresentation as Mastodon is also banned.

The reporting seems pretty meagre; even strictly with these events, how are so many dying from batons and rubber bullets? Sure these can kill, but fourteen people?

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netsharc ◴[08 Sep 25 12:34 UTC] No.45167498[source]▶
It's awkward isn't it, because following local laws could mean being a helping hand of the oppressor... For an extreme example, an email company that is forced by a new law to reveal all emails of citizens of country X, or a payment app that has to upload all transactions to the government (and where the supreme court has ruled in favour of the surveillance state). The "moral" company would probably rather shut their operations, but even trillion-dollar companies relent... And who has the last word on what's moral?
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monkeyelite ◴[08 Sep 25 14:17 UTC] No.45168613[source]▶
> And who has the last word on what's moral?

The standard assumption in business is that you follow local laws and customs as they are a proxy for the moral system of the local people.

Are you operating a business or promoting western ideas?

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graemep ◴[08 Sep 25 14:29 UTC] No.45168760{3}[source]▶
Freedom is a western idea? Justice is a western idea?
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1. MangoToupe ◴[08 Sep 25 15:03 UTC] No.45169218{4}[source]▶
Freedom to say whatever you'd like with no repercussions short of calling for violence is certainly a western idea. Freedom from hate speech, for instance, is something one might like that you cannot find in the US. Without qualifiers "freedom" is a floating signifier.

I'm not sure what you mean by "justice".

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2. graemep ◴[09 Sep 25 08:59 UTC] No.45179406[source]▶
A western idea in origin. According to the historian Tom Holland its a Christian idea in origin (read his book Dominion if you want an explanation) - does that mean atheists should not support it? its a good idea, everyone should adopt it.

No repercussions for anything short of calling violence is actually an American idea, to some extent other Anglophone countries. It is not generally accepted in continental Europe which has always had far more restrictions on speech. So its not generically "western". On the other hand some level of free speech is widely supported by many people in non-western countries. its in a lot of constitutions, and people will generally say they support free speech.