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wkat4242 ◴[] No.45167565[source]
The bigger issue is, if you're refusing to honour a contract as a vendor, not only do you risk a lawsuit like this one. But more importantly, who is ever going to sign up for another contract with you? You just proved it isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Unwritten terms like "valid until I decide to tear it up haha lol" are not generally appreciated by companies that depend on your stuff for their business. Of course you can extort your existing customers until they manage to move away but basically in the longer term you're suiciding your entire business.

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1. eqvinox ◴[] No.45168947[source]
As someone who only knows Broadcom's silicon business: there, they're just used to people having no other choice, with their quasi monopoly in some fields. Are they (mistakenly) transferring that attitude to VMware?
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2. natebc ◴[] No.45169792[source]
Yes.

Our 5 year ELA for vmware went from 1.5M USD to 12M USD. Higher ed.

Our Hyper-V environment is coming online this month. It was already included with our ELA with Microsoft so we were able to splash out a bit for some higher tier support.

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3. bityard ◴[] No.45170546[source]
Mistakenly? No, Broadcom was very up-front about their plans to offload small customers and massively upcharge large customers pretty much the same week the purchase was announced. It's stupid, and Broadcom are certainly assholes, but they did give a LOT of advance warning.
4. testdelacc1 ◴[] No.45171639[source]
I’m curious, why does higher ed need VMWare? Is it because you have some supercomputers that you want to share among your employees?

I’m asking because for $12m I’d just buy all the employees some high end commodity hardware.

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5. Symbiote ◴[] No.45171898{3}[source]
It will be for ordinary administration, employees, students, finance etc.

The academic work (including the supercomputer) will run Linux and open source systems for job scheduling etc.

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6. snapcaster ◴[] No.45172666{4}[source]
Why does any of this use VMs? Not familiar with the space at all
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7. jabl ◴[] No.45172999{5}[source]
Uh? IT for higher ed is not that different from any other enterprise IT.

I used to work at a university, although I worked on the Linux/HPC side of things we did have regular contact with the IT department. So things the IT department used VM's for of the top of my head:

- Web servers. Yes, the official university web pages, with fronted servers, database servers and whatnot. But also a lot of departments had their own servers, even some research groups ran their own. To get rid of the zillions of ad-hoc servers running in closets here and there IT gave out VM's pretty freely to staff members.

- Email. Yes, this was before everyone + dog outsourced their email, so they ran their own in-house email servers.

- print servers

- (I think file servers were mostly non-VM appliances, my university used netapp's a lot)

- All kinds of management systems to manage the campus workstations and network. And things like Active Directory and other directory services type services which are critical.

- A zillion in-house applications for things like signing up for courses and other things necessary for handling thousands of students.

- A lot of bespoke systems given out to research groups for whatever purposes they needed, again in order to get rid of the zillion repurposed old pc's running in closets acting as servers or running some experiments etc.

- Critical services and some not-so-critical services as well had test environments to test changes before rolling out to production.

- Finance/admin stuff like payroll etc.

- Shell servers (ssh), RDP servers, VPN servers etc. to enable staff to access university services from outside.

All in all, it was hundreds and hundreds of VM's. Wouldn't surprise me if there were actually thousands.

8. simoncion ◴[] No.45173078{5}[source]
None of it needs to be on VMs, but it's generally more convenient to manage when it is. You could also use something like Kubernetes, but then you're administering Kubernetes.
9. natebc ◴[] No.45173199{3}[source]
Higher Ed is really just Enterprise IT at a giant non-profit, sometimes state funded, sometimes not.

The HPC side of the house actually used VMWare _less_ than the enterprise side. Mostly due to funding restrictions.