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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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560 points whatsupdog | 2 comments | 08 Sep 25 11:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.432s | source
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asib ◴[08 Sep 25 12:02 UTC] No.45167257[source]▶
> The demonstration turned violent when some protesters entered the Parliament complex, prompting police to resort to baton charges, tear gas shells and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd, eyewitnesses said.

14 people dead from so-called "non-lethal" means. How do 14 people end up dead without the police coming with intent to do harm?

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bjackman ◴[08 Sep 25 12:20 UTC] No.45167399[source]▶
Also note the phrasing. The content is "the police killed 14 people". But the form is "the situation turned violent as a result of the protester's actions".
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ddtaylor ◴[08 Sep 25 12:27 UTC] No.45167442[source]▶
"See what you made me do" is a common phrase in domestic abuse.
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whamlastxmas ◴[08 Sep 25 13:35 UTC] No.45168088[source]▶
It’s also irrefutable fact that pro-state or pro-cop agitators throughout history will pretend to be a demonstrator and throw a single brick to give the cops an excuse to break some skulls
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martin-t ◴[08 Sep 25 14:04 UTC] No.45168430[source]▶
In primitive societies where people are expected to resolve their own problems because everyone is roughly equal, violence is the principal currency, for better or worse.

But in "civilized" societies with multiple layers of power structures, you are not supposed to solve your own problem, you are supposed to show somebody in a position of power that you are the victim so they solve the problem for you. This means victimhood is the principal currency of power.

Don't believe me? Every governments which allows protests says they must always be peaceful and "violence doesn't belong in politics". Yet how many of those governments were created by violent armed revolt against a previous authoritarian government? How many by "peaceful" protests?

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1. 01HNNWZ0MV43FF ◴[08 Sep 25 14:37 UTC] No.45168869[source]▶
"violence doesn't belong in politics" is a hilarious one. Off the top of my head, the USA is kidnapping people and sending them to countries they are not from, and telling me as a trans woman that maybe I should not own guns

I'm sure there will be no violence once the thugs have guns and I don't

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2. martin-t ◴[08 Sep 25 16:53 UTC] No.45170643[source]▶
Sorry to see you getting downvoted or flagged but that's HN for you.

Issue is many people believe that peace is more important than justice.

Or that fighting and losing is worse than not being able to fight at all. And there's a bit of concern trolling too - basically they say if you fought you'd lose so they'll take away your ability to fight to protect you.

This is happening in Europe too with plenty of people trying to stop weapon deliveries to Ukraine because that'll stop the war. It's "stop struggling, it'll be over sooner" with slightly more sophisticated words.