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perihelions ◴[] No.45167153[source]
Hard-earned freedoms are wasted on societies who don't have memories of what it took to earn them. Freedom is a ratchet: slides easily and frictionlessly one way, and offers immense resistance in the other.

This is all so disheartening.

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1. mothballed ◴[] No.45167311[source]
I'm totally ignorant of the human right situation in nepal.

In the copy I found of their constitution, it only mentioned freedom of speech for the government. On their house floor.

What was it like there in recent times? Much state repression for political thought or unapproved opinions?

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2. yieldcrv ◴[] No.45167340[source]
Always have to look deeper either way

The Chinese constitution guarantees free speech universally, another part of the constitution is used to control all facets of life in line with the state narrative, and that’s a charitable interpretation when we just pretend that the process of law matters at all, and distinguish when it is just procedural theatre or a real constraint on the state

Conflicting parts of constitutions can change everything

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3. mothballed ◴[] No.45167396[source]
Appreciate the analysis. Do you think this is the status quo continuing in Nepal, or is the human right situation degrading?
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4. perihelions ◴[] No.45167410[source]
The Chinese, North Korean, and old USSR constitutions all contain(ed) strong language "guaranteeing" universal freedom of speech.

It's a bit like that Game of Thrones scene where Sean Bean brings a slip of paper into the throne room.

5. mytailorisrich ◴[] No.45169088[source]
A Constitution is just a piece of paper.

I think Westerners and perhaps especially Americans think it has intrinsic power because they have a strong rule of law and effective independent courts so they are used to their Constitution being well inforced.

However, in a country where this is not the case the Constitution is just a piece of paper...

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6. mothballed ◴[] No.45169252[source]
Agreed but if the right doesn't exist on paper it's not likely the government is going to respect it in practice. Although there are exceptions (most Somalia has de facto right to bear arms despite it being super illegal).