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bamboozled ◴[] No.45158197[source]
I've heard the argument made that it's better to stop burning fossil fuel, even if you're a climate change denier for reasons like this.

Even if you think climate change is a hoax, why not reduce pollution anyway?

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hereme888 ◴[] No.45158490[source]
I'm on that boat. Though no one denies that the climate changes (but rather argue the about degree of human contribution and climate warming), destroying the beauty of nature and polluting the environment should go against global human conscience.
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melling ◴[] No.45158585[source]
“The climate is always changing”

Yes, those people are mostly imbeciles.

They argue that because Obama has a house near the ocean… and because people fly…

You can have a discussion with them but be prepared to start over in the same place the next time the subject comes up.

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hereme888 ◴[] No.45158862{3}[source]
I think it's imbecile for self-righteous people to not spare a few moments of patience to politely try to correct those who were exposed to wrong information that caters to their bias. It's almost guaranteed that you also believe some sort of ridiculous conspiracy or bias, just like everyone else.

Maybe try listening to them. After all, scientists did switch from "global warming" to an unspecific term like "climate change", which gives them a reason for distrust. Same for other aspects of scientific notion, like distrust against scientists when they and politicians tried to cover up information on COVID and COVID vaccines.

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melling ◴[] No.45158930{4}[source]
I’ve spent decades.

They’re imbeciles!

By the way, it’s still global warming but that was causing some confusion to some people because the weather locally might be cooler, warmer, wetter, dryer, etc.

Hence, climate change seems to better convey what people actually see.

Should we review what climate scientists actually said in the 1970s next?

What’s your favorite anecdotal (ie non science) story you go to?

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hereme888 ◴[] No.45159654{5}[source]
You think 90% of the world cares to follow what scientists said in the 1970's? All they care about is "They said 'global warming', but now some news report it's actually colder, and I've heard several scientists give presentations that it's all fake and not true. They just want to push their green agenda and are part of a conspiracy to [something]. And btw the earth is actually flat. All those satellite images are CGG, says all the youtube videos I've watched. And yea, vaccines cause autism because I've read a bunch of blogs online proving it."

It's why governments try to curb online disinformation. Did you know conspiracy theories thrive among the less successful? Insulting them will only push them further away towards groups that gladly open their arms to them.

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1. melling ◴[] No.45163688{6}[source]
So, I got to the bottom of this. Someone watches a lot of “right wing “ alarmist garbage on the Internet then doubts everything. Mission accomplished.