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givemeethekeys ◴[] No.45158722[source]
I find it amazing that theres so much sympathy towards giant Korean megacorp here.

“Oh, maybe they got mixed up with the visa because language”. No they did not.

“Oh, maybe it’s really difficult to find local talent”. No it isn’t. Not for them.

There are many advantages for them to illegally fly in a whole Workforce. That is why they did it.

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1. mattnewton ◴[] No.45158989[source]
It’s more exasperation at how ridiculous this process is, treating foreign labor like dangerous criminals by default.
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2. dazilcher ◴[] No.45159113[source]
How do you suggest we should treat foreign illegal labor?
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3. politelemon ◴[] No.45159272[source]
Not like dangerous criminals. Not with white gloves. It isn't binary.
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5. ivysly ◴[] No.45159307[source]
how about like any other kind
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6. votepaunchy ◴[] No.45159428{3}[source]
So how should we treat foreign illegal non-labor?
7. mattnewton ◴[] No.45160901[source]
In this case, give them and the company responsible a court summons?

Instead they detained all the Koreans in the building and appear to have used them as a negotiating chip in an upcoming “deal” with the government of South Korea. This is behavior we expect of a banana republic not an allied nation of laws.

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8. giraffe_lady ◴[] No.45163180[source]
This is easy lol you go after the people benefitting from their labor.
9. jayd16 ◴[] No.45163208[source]
Like people, maybe? What is the point of treating them like violent criminals other than to dehumanize them? Is it really any more effective than one guy reviewing the payroll and passing out fines until the issues are resolved?

Besides, they haven't been charged with anything so in the US they are considered innocent.

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10. jleyank ◴[] No.45163234{4}[source]
Don’t forget ruling by decree.
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11. jacquesm ◴[] No.45163320{5}[source]
That was not meant as an exhaustive list, more like a sample, but yes, ruling by degree is a big one (as is ignoring parliament/congress).
12. eli_gottlieb ◴[] No.45163345[source]
Like the wage-slaves of dangerous criminals.
13. amatecha ◴[] No.45163406{4}[source]
To the people who already lived in NA before we settlers took over, we were the "illegals". The irony of xenophobic fear of immigrants will never cease to amuse me. (signed, a descendant of Zacharie Cloutier)
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14. FridayoLeary ◴[] No.45163475{3}[source]
Which is why they are being flown home. I see no dehumanizing going on. They were detained because they had no right to be in the country. You are putting a spin on this that simply doesn't exist.

I'm frankly baffled. You have a large capitalist corporation, flouting the laws of the country they're in and exploiting cheap labour. The US are simply enforcing the law like you would expect from any non banana republic. I can't think of in issue where the left should be so aligned with the government. It's a scandal and i hope the executives get held to account.

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15. senectus1 ◴[] No.45163615{4}[source]
while all these things are true, they're not great descriptions of a banana republic.
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16. jacquesm ◴[] No.45163640{5}[source]
Feel free to add the ones that you think that are, as long as they apply.

- Sham judicial processes used to strongarm officials? Check.

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17. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.45163728{5}[source]
It's not really that ironic. The native Americans fought and lost. If they had their way there would be no USA or settlers. Where is the irony in this?

It seems the lesson is that if foreign people want to come and live here, they better come with an army and be prepared to fight. Another lesson is that if you let them in they will displace you and diminish your autonomy.

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18. amatecha ◴[] No.45164927{6}[source]
Immigrants, by and large, aren't waging war or invading.

Of course the indigenous people fought - their home was being totally taken over, by force. That's not what's happening today.

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19. jenadine ◴[] No.45164940{6}[source]
From Wikipedia:

> the term banana republic describes a politically and economically unstable country with an economy dependent upon the export of natural resource.

The dependence upon natural resource may be hard to check.

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20. helqn ◴[] No.45165222{7}[source]
What’s happening today is that megacorps are bringing in people illegally to dump the salaries of the locals and for some reason the left, which should fight for the working rights of the locals, is siding with the revenue of the billionaires.
21. jacquesm ◴[] No.45166061{7}[source]
Give it some time, they're emulating russia in just about every other respect as well.
22. port11 ◴[] No.45167414{4}[source]
This is a malevolent interpretation.

They were in the country to transfer knowledge and help build a factory to create jobs in the US.

By mistake (maybe?), some visas expired, and then all workers are arrested.

Doesn't that seem like an exaggerated response? It's not like they don't respect the US laws and regulations…

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23. helqn ◴[] No.45167724{5}[source]
Staying in the US when you don’t have a valid visa is disrespecting the US laws and regulations.
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24. jayd16 ◴[] No.45169249{6}[source]
Inappropriate use of force, search and seizure and racial profiling is disrespecting the US laws and regulations.