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ajross ◴[] No.45158300[source]
Isn't "freed and flown home" the same thing as "deported"? These were routine professionals doing a job they took in good faith under rules and norms that have held for a century or more.
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metrix ◴[] No.45158342[source]
I don't quite understand what happened other than "deported by ICE".
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1. sb8244 ◴[] No.45158376[source]
The article makes it sound as if there were govt negotiations to have them sent home. It is light on details though, but with that many people of a friendly nation / corporation I imagine they get treated differently.

I interpreted that to mean they may not have permanent US immigration issues vs "being deported".

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2. fsckboy ◴[] No.45158715[source]
the national debate and evolving policies wrt deportations the past year has focused on:

1. getting those with criminal records depoarted and not allowed back (a fair number of whom have been depoted and have violated the ban on returning)

2. getting those who've wished to settle and work jobs to leave voluntarily by buying them plane tickets and giving them cash stipends and not barring their reentry in the future

These Koreans who came to Georgia on behalf of their company will probably not have their tickets paid for by the US nor get the stipend, so yes, they are treated differently as you suggest.

after the surprise arrests executing the judicial warrant, the Korean company and government stepped forward and expressed a commitment to helping these workers, which occurred without negotiation, although you could call the flurry of phone calls after that negotiations, it was probably more like "Q; what do we need to do" "A: you need to bring them home". neither country nor the companies involved is looking to disturb relations, though perhaps this is adjacent to a tariff negotiation.

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3. notpachet ◴[] No.45158808[source]
> 2. getting those who've wished to settle and work jobs to leave voluntarily by buying them plane tickets and not barring their reentry in the future

If you think the current administration is giving cash stipends to anyone it's been working to deport as part of its dragnet, I have a very large bridge to sell you.

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4. fsckboy ◴[] No.45159309{3}[source]
it's a real policy (it's an app), provide a link if you have a source that says it's not, otherwise you're just unproductively snarking. it's certainly cost effective, a few thousand voluntary is much cheaper than administrative means.
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5. jacquesm ◴[] No.45159672[source]
> neither country nor the companies involved is looking to disturb relations

Relations are disturbed. You can take that to the bank. The SK government just stepped up for their citizens as they should. But US/SK relations just got dinged.

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6. notpachet ◴[] No.45160874{4}[source]
I have friends who've been deported without criminal records. They didn't get paid anything. I don't know what you're talking about.

I'll repeat what I said:

> If you think the current administration is giving cash stipends to anyone it's been working to deport as part of its dragnet

What policy or app says "when ICE deports people, give them a stipend" ?

Edit: Here's the ICE manual on how deportations are conducted[1]. There's no mention of cash payouts.

[1] https://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/dro_policy_memos/09684drofie...

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7. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.45163258[source]
Most of the conflict occurs when the country of origin refuses to accept the deportees, for whatever reason. I don't imagine this will be the case with South Korea.
8. fsckboy ◴[] No.45165159{5}[source]
as I said before, the program is to volunteer to go home prior to being deported by the govt; the point is by volunteering you save the cost of deportation (agents, lawyers, court time, incarceration, transportation)

so if your friends were deported before applying, then it's too late because that deportation already cost the govt money.

the program is only months old, so if your friends got deported before that it wouldn't apply.

you have to apply for the program (I think you just download the app and sign up) in advance, you can't just return home and then apply.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/05/05/dhs-announces-historic-t...

https://www.ice.gov/self-deportation

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9. fsckboy ◴[] No.45165209{3}[source]
i didn't say neither country wanted to control its borders, visas, employment etc, but that's all consular stuff or domestic/border policing.

at the ambassaor/embassy/diplomatic level state to state, there will be no effect on relations because neither country wants that. We are important allies and major trading partners, this is a matter of minor corruption.

you're smarter than this, don't read/comment selectively to stay on your hobby horses. this does not bring us closer to the inevitable contradictions of capitalism and the revolution.

10. notpachet ◴[] No.45166078{6}[source]
Interesting. I missed this. Thanks.