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The Claude Code Framework Wars

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125 points ShMcK | 3 comments | 07 Sep 25 04:05 UTC | HN request time: 0.399s | source
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troupo ◴[07 Sep 25 09:00 UTC] No.45156574[source]▶
> a set of rules, roles, and workflows that make its output predictable and valuable.

Let me stop you right there. Are you seriously talking about predictable when talking about a non-deterministic black box over which you have no control?

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1. brookst ◴[07 Sep 25 14:00 UTC] No.45158223[source]▶
Would you say a top tier human developer produces predictable output? I would, in the sense that it will be well designed and implemented code that meets the requirements. Can we guess every variable name and logic choice? Probably not.
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2. troupo ◴[07 Sep 25 15:15 UTC] No.45158927[source]▶
> Would you say a top tier human developer produces predictable output?

First you'd have to prove that LLMs can be equated to a "top tier human developer"

> I would, in the sense that it will be well designed and implemented code that meets the requirements.

Indeed. Something LLMs can or cannot do with all the predictability of a toss coin.

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3. brookst ◴[09 Sep 25 12:42 UTC] No.45181167[source]▶
> First you'd have to prove that LLMs can be equated to a "top tier human developer"

Huh? Can you elaborate? I thought the claim was that predictable output is the gold standard and variance in LLM output means they can never rival humans.

Please restate if I missed why deterministic output is so important.