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1. swayvil ◴[] No.45154092[source]
Pipes, steam, turbines...

We need better peltier devices.

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2. tipidNasuada ◴[] No.45154493[source]
I thought exactly the same thing. Peltier's themselves don't really have a pathway for becoming as efficient as steam turbines but there are other methods currently in research. One promising idea is to use sodium vapor in a fuel cell style device: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jpowsour.2017.10.022
3. quickthrowman ◴[] No.45158112[source]
The maximum COP for a peltier device is 1, in practice it’s far below that.

Heat pumps go way beyond a COP of 1; an open-loop cooling system with an evaporative cooling tower can have a COP of 7. A closed loop heat pump alone can have a COP of 4.

Peltier devices are a dead end for moving heat around outside of specialized applications where you can’t drag around two heat exchangers, a valve, and a pump (like active cooling clothing). It’s impossible for them to even approach the efficiency of resistive heating (COP of 1).

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4. swayvil ◴[] No.45158220[source]
The aim here is to get power from temperature differential, not vice-versa