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kstrauser ◴[] No.45153451[source]
All the time. I have a UnitedHealthcare “platinum” plan, and it may as well not include pharmacy benefits because it never covers anything. Generic thyroid meds went from $2/month with Aetna to $70 with UHC. ADHD meds went from $10 to $300.

The threatened “death panels” we heard about when ACA was being debated are actually employees of insurers who decide what they’re not going to pay for.

I was raised a die-hard capitalist and in many ways still am. When it comes to healthcare these days, I’m somewhere to the left of Marx. What we have now is a failed system. It simply does not work. The turnip has been squeezed and there’s no blood left to wring from it.

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SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.45154025[source]
> The threatened “death panels” we heard about when ACA was being debated are actually employees of insurers who decide what they’re not going to pay for.

The key insight, though, is that this is fundamentally unavoidable. Someone, somewhere has to decide how a limited healthcare budget will be allocated among all the various healthcare it could go towards.

You and I agree that it would be best to have a system where this is never the patient's problem. Someone determines a standard of care that will achieve the best patient results with the resources available, and then any patient can get whatever treatment's best for them within that framework. That's why I have and recommend Kaiser, they do a good job of presenting that abstraction.

Other people are terrified of the idea of having the standard of care determined by some centralized committee, because what if they decide a treatment that my doctor and I like isn't appropriate? I think the fear is wrong, to be clear, but it's genuine and does deserve to be addressed. Thus all the promises about "if you like your plan you can keep your plan".

(A third group of people believe that healthcare is only limited because of shenanigans, and with the appropriate reforms we could build a system where anyone is entitled to any treatment that might reasonably help them. I'm never quite sure what to tell them, since I don't think that's true but I don't know how to prove it beyond the lack of examples.)

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1. kstrauser ◴[] No.45154086[source]
For context, I’ve co-owned a medical practice for about 25 years, and spent the previous decade working for a healthcare startup that processed insurance claims to do data science.

The system is broken. It’s useless to extrapolate how things might work based on their current functionality. It doesn’t have to be like this. Everywhere else in the world manages it better than we do, and we’re not special snowflakes who require some hellish mashup out of Cyberpunk 2077 to take our kids to the doctor.

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2. notmyjob ◴[] No.45157677[source]
“Everywhere else in the world manages it better than we do”

If that were true, why do people come to get health care in the US? (Because we have better healthcare and it’s free if you don’t have money or aren’t a citizen.)