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zahirbmirza ◴[] No.45144523[source]
Connected thermostats are great in theory! But they should not have to rely on a cloud connection. A local network with the option of internet connectivity would be awesome; but, it seems, no company is going to become uber successful if there isn't the option of forced upgrades and cloud subscriptions. Look at Ring...
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ocdtrekkie ◴[] No.45144736[source]
My Insteon thermostat is a great dumb thermostat that I can also send commands to over a serial connection to a powerline/RF modem. (Very similar to Z-Wave's RF, though proprietary.)

The key is do not buy smart devices with Wi-Fi. There are better products for serious people. Everyone here with a Zigbee or Z-Wave product probably learned that the hard way first. ;)

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1. pcdoodle ◴[] No.45153578[source]
Insteon is the GOAT IMO. I trashed my smart hub because the darned light switches talk to each other with no middle man, I love living "hubless".
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2. ocdtrekkie ◴[] No.45153683[source]
I do like a PLM for computer control but I wrote the software myself. It was originally like ten lines of Visual Basic to implement turning on a light. It's really nice how minimal you can start with Insteon stuff.
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3. pcdoodle ◴[] No.45154085[source]
Same, serial packets are pretty easy to assemble and get things going. I think at one point i linked an exterior motion sensor to beep the light switch in the night (There are beepers in the switch!).