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Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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989 points acomjean | 1 comments | 05 Sep 25 19:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.227s | source
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aeon_ai ◴[05 Sep 25 20:46 UTC] No.45143392[source]▶
To be very clear on this point - this is not related to model training.

It’s important in the fair use assessment to understand that the training itself is fair use, but the pirating of the books is the issue at hand here, and is what Anthropic “whoopsied” into in acquiring the training data.

Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and training on it is fine.

Rainbows End was prescient in many ways.

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varenc ◴[05 Sep 25 20:57 UTC] No.45143513[source]▶
> Rainbows End was prescient in many ways.

Agreed. Great book for those looking for a read: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/102439.Rainbows_End

The author, Vernor Vinge, is also responsible for popularizing the term 'singularity'.

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Taylor_OD ◴[05 Sep 25 21:17 UTC] No.45143727[source]▶
RIP to the legend. He has a lot of really fun ideas spread across his books.
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beambot ◴[05 Sep 25 23:09 UTC] No.45144780[source]▶
I didn't realize Vernor Vinge had passed away... Sad TIL
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dekhn ◴[05 Sep 25 23:34 UTC] No.45144970[source]▶
I got to meet him and person and tell him that his books (along with The Coming Technological Singularity) had a huge influence on my decision to go into ML. He seemed pleased. I just wish he had wrapped up the Fire Upon the Deep series.
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1. varenc ◴[06 Sep 25 21:08 UTC] No.45152844[source]▶
I got to meet him once too! Unexpectedly met him at a Media Lab demo day. I was trying to play it cool though and didn't gush to him around how he's one of my favorite authors. I regret not doing so now.