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Aurornis ◴[] No.45149578[source]
When founders put 996 in their job descriptions or Tweet about their 996 culture it’s a helpful signal to avoid that company.

The only time I’d actually consider crazy schedules was if I was the founder with a huge equity stake and a once in a lifetime opportunity that would benefit from a short period of 996.

For average employees? Absolutely not. If someone wants extraordinary hours they need to be providing extraordinary compensation. Pay me a couple million per year and I’ll do it for a while (though not appropriate for everyone). Pay me the same as the other job opportunities? Absolutely no way I’m going to 996.

In my experience, the 996 teams aren’t actually cranking out more work. They’re just working odd hours, doing a little work on the weekends to say they worked the weekend, and they spend a lot of time relaxing at the office because they’re always there.

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SomaticPirate ◴[] No.45150411[source]
We need to collate this. Is there a repo where we can mention companies that do this? I’ve talked to HR reps who extol their amazing work life balance only to find engineering is expected to work close to a 996
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Kwpolska ◴[] No.45150659[source]
And can we include on-call in the list as well?
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1. scott_w ◴[] No.45152707[source]
On-call is different because it’s usually paid. Lots of businesses outside of tech do on-call and it’s not controversial at all.
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2. Kwpolska ◴[] No.45152741[source]
Isn’t 996 paid more than 955? Software engineers on-call is not a great practice, especially if you’re not in a life-critical industry (and most engineers aren’t), even though it’s been normalized.
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3. scott_w ◴[] No.45156156[source]
> Isn’t 996 paid more than 955?

Not necessarily.

On-call is not the same either, there’s pay for being available then there’s pay for being called, so they’re not comparable at all.

> especially if you’re not in a life-critical industry

Most on-call isn’t in life critical industries. My dad had to drive to Leicester through the night with a generator in the bed of a pickup so the Walkers factory there could get back to making crisps. I’m sure Britain would have survived a slight reduction in supply of salt and vinegar crisps, so again, your idea that on-call should only exist for critical industries is an idea that seems to only exist in the heads of a relatively small number of software engineers. And I’ve no idea how you came to this conclusion.