←back to thread

The Universe Within 12.5 Light Years

(www.atlasoftheuniverse.com)
266 points algorithmista | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.199s | source
Show context
stephc_int13 ◴[] No.45145686[source]
When the Fermi Paradox was first posited, scientists and engineers seemed to believe that interstellar travel was soon to be technologically achievable, a few decades, maybe centuries for the less optimistic. Progress around space propulsion has kind of stalled since then and we should maybe question the possibility of interstellar travel as this would give an easy but unpleasant answer to the famous paradox.
replies(4): >>45145776 #>>45145814 #>>45146055 #>>45155044 #
shireboy ◴[] No.45145776[source]
Right- “where are all the aliens?” is answered by either “they don’t exist” or “they do but physics of the universe prevent them from moving between solar systems.”
replies(4): >>45146004 #>>45146975 #>>45146984 #>>45149864 #
VladVladikoff ◴[] No.45146004[source]
This feels very defeatist to me. Technology continues to advance, exponentially. And there are hypothetical ultra fast space travel technologies that we haven’t yet been able to fabricate but could theoretically in the future. e.g. Alcubierre warp drive.
replies(7): >>45146347 #>>45146708 #>>45146735 #>>45146813 #>>45146852 #>>45147708 #>>45149513 #
krapp ◴[] No.45146735[source]
If the Alcubierre drive were possible, some civilization would have already discovered it, and we would see evidence of its use. This is certain to be the case with any kind of FTL travel, if such a thing is even possible.

But when we observe the universe we see nothing. Therefore either no advanced life exists in the universe besides ourselves, which seems unlikely, or none have spread to space in any significant degree and FTL is either impossible or so difficult no one bothers. There doesn't seem to be a secret third thing that both satisfies our observations and obeys known physics.

replies(2): >>45147699 #>>45151802 #
1. ◴[] No.45151802[source]