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I kissed comment culture goodbye

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quitit ◴[] No.45147358[source]
Slashdot had a decent comment system where moderation points were assigned at random and a comment could be marked as insightful, troll, etc. This helped sustain discourse and resisted some of the usual “hive mind” pile ons that are common on reddit and here.

I think we are all pretty aware of how the up and down arrows are supposed to be used versus how they get used.

For content that doesn’t trigger an emotional response: the arrows are used appropriately, highlighting comments and silencing less useful discussion. HN is incredibly useful for discussion on non-controversial, almost mundane, topics.

However it all comes undone for any topic that carries emotional baggage. Where up and down arrows are clearly used as “like” and “dislike” buttons regardless of the facts or merit presented in each comment. Instead commenting becomes an exercise in PR. The first clue is the comment count. HN has some very predictable patterns in comment counts.

Platform operators may not be willing to change this as “hive mind” and “liked” content helps visitation, even if it doesn’t help discourse. The consequence of inaction however is that topic experts are pushed out by mobbing, because invariably not everything is sunshine and roses.

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rjzzleep ◴[] No.45147485[source]
Why did Slashdot die?
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inejge ◴[] No.45147591[source]
It slid into irrelevance as the early internet exploded around it and it became an angryish nerd oasis. Reddit easily outscoped it, and HN had the attraction of VC money sloshing behind the scenes.

Slashdot, the site, still lives as a fossil from 10-15 years ago. It must be popular enough to pay its bills.

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1. immibis ◴[] No.45149663[source]
"Angryish nerd oasis" sounds like the same thing that happened to Reddit, so perhaps Slashdot wasn't actually uniquely good. Perhaps it will also happen to HN and lobsters.
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2. Karrot_Kream ◴[] No.45152731[source]
It's already happening to HN and Lobsters is going through some internal fighting now. Compare conversations 10 years ago here to now and you can see how much angrier the site has become.