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petralithic ◴[] No.45143482[source]
This is sad for open source AI, piracy for the purpose of model training should also be fair use because otherwise only the big companies who can afford to pay off publishers like Anthropic will be able to do so. There is no way to buy billions of books just for model training, it simply can't happen.
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dbalatero ◴[] No.45143523[source]
This implies training models is some sort of right.
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542458 ◴[] No.45143539[source]
No, it implies that having the power to train AI models exclusively consolidated into a handful of extremely powerful companies is bad.
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johnnyanmac ◴[] No.45144660[source]
It implies that people want everyone to do this when it's clear no one should do it. I'm not exactly a fan of "this isn't profitable for small businesses to steal from so we should make it so everyone should steal".
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petralithic ◴[] No.45144729[source]
Piracy is not stealing. I don't know why everyone on HN suddenly turned into a copyright hawk, only big companies benefit from our current copyright regime, like Disney and their lobbying for increasing its length.
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alchemist1e9 ◴[] No.45145973[source]
It’s shifts like that, going from a copyleft to a copyright crowd, that make me increasingly suspicious the HN is authentic as it was years ago. Another weird one is the socialism lean instead of more libertarian ideals by many commentators. I think it might be generational issues and being 50+ years old makes me an old timer!
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1. petralithic ◴[] No.45149275[source]
I'm guessing it's because every year, younger people join HN. I've been on this site for at least a decade and a half with various accounts and it's interesting to see the shift.