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roenxi[dead post] ◴[] No.45147470[source]
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delusional ◴[] No.45147613[source]
You worldview is incredibly foreign to me, but I'll try to engage fairly with it.

> the US right wing looked like it was about to build a complete alternative internet for a while there

This would seem to imply that the established internet, what we had before this relenting, was somehow left wing. Is that an accurate description of your view? When did this relenting take place?

> they just partially marginalised when the censorship backed off.

Is it your position that Truth Social (the social network started by the current president of the united states) is currently a marginalized space?

> That isn't how feudal revolts work in my understanding; typically peasants just got squished by better armed, armoured and organised soldier classes.

I think it's interesting that you posit this as a fight between the "peasants" and the "soliders". I'm assuming, to make sense of your analogy, that the "peasants" in this case is the current president of the united states and Elon Musk. the "soliders" would then be "Jeff Bezos" and "Sundar Pichai"

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1. palmfacehn ◴[] No.45147651[source]
>This would seem to imply that the established internet, what we had before this relenting, was somehow left wing.

I would omit the left-wing characterization as a debatable generalization. Perhaps it would be better described as the specific platforms being opposition partisans, rather than the Internet itself.

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2. delusional ◴[] No.45147724[source]
> Perhaps it would be better described as the specific platforms being opposition partisans

I'm sympathetic to such an argument, but it does beg the question: Which platforms? The original comments choices of singling out Rumble and Truth Social, would imply that YouTube and Twitter would at least be _among_ those "specific platforms" but neither of those platforms are, at least according to the left, particularly left wing. Both platform have repeatedly been criticized for creating and propagating structures that lead people down what was called "the alt-right pipeline" and has, historically, hosted some of the most active alt-right figureheads.

That's not to say either platform is or was right-wing either. I'm not the one making an argument. Though I'm not convinced they were particularly left-wing or partisan before the creation of Rumble and Truth Social.

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3. roenxi ◴[] No.45147926[source]
Just to be clear, I never said anything about the left wing. I don't think they were involved in that one. Suppressing speech is generally opposed by the leftists.
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4. gg82 ◴[] No.45149216{3}[source]
Just compare X and Blue Sky. There may be some principled leftists who oppose suppressing speech, but in recent times, it has been the left that has been censoring/blocking peoples speech. Another comparison is what is actually censored. Of course there is a certain amount that would be censored by both sides - criticism of power.