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zahirbmirza ◴[] No.45144523[source]
Connected thermostats are great in theory! But they should not have to rely on a cloud connection. A local network with the option of internet connectivity would be awesome; but, it seems, no company is going to become uber successful if there isn't the option of forced upgrades and cloud subscriptions. Look at Ring...
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asdff ◴[] No.45145083[source]
Plenty of companies are successfull and don't rely on forced cloud. Reolink for example. Plenty of others.

The real difference is that these are not american sv vc backed companies like nest or ring. they are chinese companies set on disrupting those vc backed companies using this local first mindset as the differentiator.

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1. j45 ◴[] No.45145108[source]
No forced cloud should be a home automation feature that’s advertised and reviewed.
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2. asdff ◴[] No.45145194[source]
It usually is for those companies. Reolink for example are pretty proud of their local first subscription free model in their product advertising.