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Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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989 points acomjean | 7 comments | 05 Sep 25 19:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.721s | source | bottom
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aeon_ai ◴[05 Sep 25 20:46 UTC] No.45143392[source]▶
To be very clear on this point - this is not related to model training.

It’s important in the fair use assessment to understand that the training itself is fair use, but the pirating of the books is the issue at hand here, and is what Anthropic “whoopsied” into in acquiring the training data.

Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and training on it is fine.

Rainbows End was prescient in many ways.

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1. shortformblog ◴[05 Sep 25 22:10 UTC] No.45144244[source]▶
Thanks for the reminder that what the Internet Archive did in its case would have been legal if it was in service of an LLM.
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2. kennywinker ◴[05 Sep 25 22:12 UTC] No.45144265[source]▶
LLM’s are turning out to be a real get-out-of-legal-responsibilities card, hey?
3. yoyohello13 ◴[05 Sep 25 22:39 UTC] No.45144520[source]▶
Many things become legal when the perpetrator has money.
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5. mountainriver ◴[05 Sep 25 23:23 UTC] No.45144898[source]▶
The golden rule:

He who has the gold makes the rules

6. 1gn15 ◴[06 Sep 25 02:29 UTC] No.45146088[source]▶
This is a good soundbite but doesn't make sense. The Internet Archive had to pay for redistributing copyrighted materials. Anthropic just paid too. (Note: redistributing != training)
7. tpmoney ◴[06 Sep 25 19:20 UTC] No.45152104[source]▶
I like the IA as much as anyone else, but surely there's a significant difference between distributing literal word for word exact copies of copyrighted material and distributing statistical indexes about copyrighted material right?