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    aeon_ai ◴[] No.45143392[source]
    To be very clear on this point - this is not related to model training.

    It’s important in the fair use assessment to understand that the training itself is fair use, but the pirating of the books is the issue at hand here, and is what Anthropic “whoopsied” into in acquiring the training data.

    Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and training on it is fine.

    Rainbows End was prescient in many ways.

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    ants_everywhere ◴[] No.45143731[source]
    I wonder what Aaron Swartz would think if he lived to see the era of libgen.
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    klntsky ◴[] No.45143762[source]
    He died (2013) after libgen was created (2008).
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    1. arcanemachiner ◴[] No.45143787[source]
    Yeah but did he die before anybody actually knew about it?
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    2. jay_kyburz ◴[] No.45143923[source]
    Is lib still around anymore. I can't find any functioning urls
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    3. kibae ◴[] No.45143953[source]
    There are mirrors on its' wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis
    4. awesome_dude ◴[] No.45144011[source]
    I believe that there's a reddit sub that keeps people up to date with what URLs are, or are not, functioning at any given point in time
    5. pxx ◴[] No.45144026[source]
    libgen.help is frequently updated
    6. griffzhowl ◴[] No.45144306[source]
    Recent MEGATHREAD on status of libgen and alternatives

    https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/1n4vjud/megathread_...

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    7. oxguy3 ◴[] No.45144346[source]
    Anna's Archive includes all of libgen and a lot more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_Archive
    8. karahime ◴[] No.45144653{3}[source]
    It's in the megathread linked in this comment, but I want to specifically point to https://open-slum.org/ which is basically a status page for different sites dedicated to this purpose, and which I've found helpful.
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    9. jychang ◴[] No.45144961{4}[source]
    Lol. I opened that link and was like "hmmm, that UI looks familiar".

    I'm pretty sure that's just a frontend for Uptime Kuma https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma

    10. edgineer ◴[] No.45145157[source]
    I knew about library genesis by 2012. It was at least 10 TiB large by then, IIRC. With the amount of Russian language content I got the impression it was more popular in that sphere, but an impressive collection for anyone and not especially secret.
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    11. h2zizzle ◴[] No.45146186[source]
    To be fair, he might have been rather preoccupied at that time.
    12. fph ◴[] No.45147673[source]
    Life pro tip: the Wikipedia pages for Libgen and Scihub contain up-to-date current links in the right sidebar. Only for the purpose of information and documentation, of course.