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    A computer upgrade shut down BART

    (www.bart.gov)
    232 points ksajadi | 11 comments | 05 Sep 25 14:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.617s | source | bottom
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    ninetyninenine ◴[05 Sep 25 18:21 UTC] No.45141839[source]▶
    I mean despite it's history the snark is well deserved. With so many companies and people in the bay paying taxes, where the hell does all the money go?

    Interesting, tidbit you added here. But snark is needed for this situation.

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    IshKebab ◴[05 Sep 25 18:42 UTC] No.45142101[source]▶
    Yeah I was pretty blown away when I visited San Francisco just how archaic it was. In the same place you have driverless cars you have a metro payment system from like 70s USSR or something.
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    1. zolland ◴[05 Sep 25 18:58 UTC] No.45142285[source]▶
    How did you pay? I made a Clipper account that I fill up with my credit card and tap my phone to pay...
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    2. owlbite ◴[05 Sep 25 19:02 UTC] No.45142329[source]▶
    Which is still shockingly outdated compared to e.g. London, where I just use my tap to pay method of choice on entry and exit, done.
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    3. zolland ◴[05 Sep 25 19:08 UTC] No.45142391[source]▶
    I mean it auto fills/pays from my card. It's just one extra step at setup. I agree it would be nice to just take my card at the rail, but "Shockingly outdated" seems a bit dramatic lol. It's certainly not comparable to "70s USSR" idk where that came from
    4. lazyasciiart ◴[05 Sep 25 19:09 UTC] No.45142411[source]▶
    Oooh, even behind e.g London, the first city in the world to offer tap and pay with bank cards!
    5. inferiorhuman ◴[05 Sep 25 19:23 UTC] No.45142573[source]▶
    You can do that on BART as well.
    6. jlebar ◴[05 Sep 25 19:40 UTC] No.45142768[source]▶
    They introduced tap-to-pay with your credit card a few weeks ago.
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    7. platevoltage ◴[05 Sep 25 20:17 UTC] No.45143140{3}[source]▶
    I was going to say the same thing. I saw this and I don't even ride it regularly anymore.
    8. antihero ◴[05 Sep 25 21:00 UTC] No.45143551[source]▶
    (which we've had to some extent for thirteen years now)
    9. novok ◴[05 Sep 25 21:02 UTC] No.45143574[source]▶
    It's also the slowest possible system, there are benefits for a closed loop system: https://atadistance.net/2020/06/13/transit-gate-evolution-wh...
    10. kelnos ◴[05 Sep 25 21:45 UTC] No.45144012[source]▶
    I have a Clipper Card on my Android phone and pay for BART and SF Muni that way.

    BART does now accept credit cards at the turnstiles now (I think this started 2 years ago). Agreed that it took a long while to get there, much much longer than in other places.

    Personally I prefer the Clipper method, as it's generally faster to scan than a contactless credit card payment (that's going to always be the case for closed-loop payment system). I also like that BART (and Muni, Caltrain, etc.) will pay less to Visa/Mastercard/whomever in transaction fees if I use my Clipper card and periodically top it up (which, as I have my Clipper card on my phone, happens automatically if the balance ever falls below $10). Credit card tap-to-pay is a nice convenience for out-of-town visitors and for locals who rarely use transit and don't have Clipper (or who use a physical Clipper card but forgot it at home), but I don't think it's a great way to pay for transit day-to-day.

    11. torton ◴[06 Sep 25 01:46 UTC] No.45145841[source]▶
    Now available on BART and coming to other Bay Area transit agencies.

    https://www.clippercard.com/ClipperWeb/contactless-payments....