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I ditched Docker for Podman

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1101 points codesmash | 3 comments | 05 Sep 25 11:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.531s | source
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t43562 ◴[05 Sep 25 12:31 UTC] No.45137756[source]▶
To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem:

Podman rocks for me!

I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

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nickjj ◴[05 Sep 25 12:51 UTC] No.45137925[source]▶
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

Was this a deal breaker for any company?

I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free.

If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9 a year per developer for the license. So $90 / year for everyone, but if you have US developers your all-in payroll is probably going to be over $200,000 per developer or roughly $2 million dollars. In that context $90 is practically nothing. A single lunch for the dev team could cost almost double that.

To me that is a bargain, you're getting an officially supported tool that "just works" on all operating systems.

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1. smokel ◴[05 Sep 25 14:00 UTC] No.45138697[source]▶
Reading through the comments here, it looks like there is an opportunity for a startup to streamline software licensing. Just a free tip.
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2. eehoo ◴[05 Sep 25 15:22 UTC] No.45139629[source]▶
There are already software licensing providers such as 10Duke that do exactly that. Pretty much all of the licensing related problems mentioned here would either disappear or at the very least get dramatically simpler if more companies used 10Duke Enterprise as their licensing solution to issue and manage licenses. There is a better way, but sadly most businesses overlook licensing.

(the company I work for uses them, our licensing used to be a mess similar to what's described here)

3. adolph ◴[05 Sep 25 15:36 UTC] No.45139793[source]▶
Yeah, at a big enterprise the larger challenge ahead of even payment is the legal arrangements. They typically sign some "master license" agreement with an aggregator like CDW. Those places don't seem well set up for software redistribution though. Setting up a Steam or AppStore clone for various utility-ware would go a long way to enabling people to access the software an enterprise doesn't mind paying for if the legal and financial stuff wasn't applying friction.