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311 points melodyogonna | 3 comments | 05 Sep 25 11:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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_aavaa_ ◴[05 Sep 25 12:43 UTC] No.45137852[source]▶
Yeah, except Mojo’s license is a non-starter.
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auggierose ◴[05 Sep 25 12:51 UTC] No.45137932[source]▶
Wow, just checked it out, and they distinguish (for commercial purposes) between CPU & Nvidia on one hand, and other "accelerators" (like TPU or AMD) on the other hand. For other accelerators you need to contact them for a license.

https://www.modular.com/blog/a-new-simpler-license-for-max-a...

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1. _aavaa_ ◴[05 Sep 25 13:01 UTC] No.45138026[source]▶
Yes; in particular see sections 2-4 of [0].

They say they'll open source in 2026 [1]. But until that has happened I'm operating under the assumption that it won't happen.

[0]: https://www.modular.com/legal/community

[1]: https://docs.modular.com/mojo/faq/#will-mojo-be-open-sourced

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2. actionfromafar ◴[05 Sep 25 13:23 UTC] No.45138283[source]▶
Same
3. mdaniel ◴[05 Sep 25 14:57 UTC] No.45139328[source]▶
> I'm operating under the assumption that it won't happen.

Or, arguably worse: my expectation is that they'll open source it, wait for it to get a lot of adoption, possibly some contribution, certainly a lot of mindshare, and then change the license to some text no one has ever heard of that forbids use on nvidia hardware without paying the piper or whatever

If it ships with a CLA, I hope we never stop talking about that risk