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A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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222 points dougb5 | 3 comments | 04 Sep 25 02:37 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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djoldman ◴[04 Sep 25 21:36 UTC] No.45132499[source]▶
Unfortunately, this kind of story will continue to be a popular one in newspapers and magazines, garnering lots of clicks. It feeds into the "everything is different now" sort of desperate helplessness people seem primed to adopt with respect to AI sometimes.

Obviously the answer to testing and grading is to do it in the classroom. If a computer is required, it can't connect to the internet.

Caught with a cellphone, you fail the test. Caught twice you fail the class.

The non-story beatings will continue until morale and common sense improve.

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AppleBananaPie ◴[04 Sep 25 23:57 UTC] No.45133599[source]▶
I'm surprised the answer of doing all exercises (including essay writing) in class is apparently not obvious.

High school me was a moron and should not be trusted to do the real work and people who know better should force him to practice the skills lol

Once he's grown and has a job he will one day realize and be thankful for the teachers that forced him to do the work.

Obviously not true for all students but I don't think it harms anyone inverting it but please point out if I'm wrong!

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1. BrenBarn ◴[05 Sep 25 05:27 UTC] No.45135231[source]▶
Part of the problem is that in some areas schools (and parents) have leaned so heavily into certain notions of "equity" or "care" that they no longer are willing to require anything so specific. I use quotes because while I think there is value in moving more towards those goals than schools often did in the past, I think it's possible to take it too far. At some point there has to be some sort of standard that has to be met, and by pushing that point further and further into life (e.g, from junior high to high school to college) we're similarly lowering the bar in various areas of life.

I've met numerous parents who seem to be offended by the idea that someone would tell their child "You must do this, even if you don't want to" in basically any context. In the past I think such things were said in many contexts where they shouldn't have been, but the pendulum is swinging a bit too far the other way these days.

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2. lurking_swe ◴[05 Sep 25 10:40 UTC] No.45137108[source]▶
the funny thing is those kind of parents are just handicapping their own kids. Or is it sad? Maybe both.

I’m sure they’ll be very proud when their child grows into a half functioning adult that can’t cope with real life.

These type of parents are so shortsighted it literally hurts my brain to interact with them lol.

3. Centigonal ◴[05 Sep 25 16:20 UTC] No.45140307[source]▶
Doing all the work in the classroom is more equitable for students who don't have comfortable and quiet places to do work at home.

It's harder for those who have additional accommodations at home, but we could arrange for those accommodations to be made in the school, and those who have accommodations at home are in a better position to advocate for getting what they need than those with rough or busy home lives.