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Wikipedia survives while the rest of the internet breaks

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598 points leotravis10 | 2 comments | 04 Sep 25 15:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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bawolff ◴[04 Sep 25 16:49 UTC] No.45129304[source]▶
There has been this trend recently of calling Wikipedia the last good thing on the internet.

And i agree its great, i spend an inordinate amount of my time on Wikimedia related things.

But i think there is a danger here with all these articles putting Wikipedia too much on a pedestal. It isn't perfect. It isn't perfectly neutral or perfectly reliable. It has flaws.

The true best part of Wikipedia is that its a work in progress and people are working to make it a little better everyday. We shouldn't lose sight of the fact we aren't there yet. We'll never be "there". But hopefully we'll continue to be a little bit closer every day. And that is what makes Wikipedia great.

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uragur27754[dead post] ◴[04 Sep 25 18:35 UTC] No.45130655[source]▶
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thegrim33 ◴[05 Sep 25 00:59 UTC] No.45133962[source]▶
Do you not realize that ridiculously straw-manning people with different beliefs than you as horrible, evil, hateful, truth-hating extremists .. is the very "extremism" and "attempting to destroy ideological opponents" that you're supposedly fighting against? How do you not see the irony?
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1. yummypaint ◴[05 Sep 25 01:12 UTC] No.45134061[source]▶
It's essential to understand that tolerance is not a moral precept, it's more like a peace treaty. It's a practical social contract that allows everyone to live in peace while exercising their rights. Treaties only protect parties who abide by their terms, and it MUST be this way, or a free society will be torn down by people who want to ban books, racially discriminate, and impose their religion on others.

Much has been written on this topic, you should avail yourself.

https://conversational-leadership.net/tolerance-is-a-social-...

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2. zahlman ◴[05 Sep 25 13:28 UTC] No.45138332[source]▶
> Treaties only protect parties who abide by their terms, and it MUST be this way, or a free society will be torn down by people who want to ban books, racially discriminate, and impose their religion on others.

In my experience, the majority of accusations of various groups or individuals wanting to do these things, are simply not supported by the available evidence. Meanwhile, accusations of the desire to discriminate, impose religion etc. are often cited as justifications for censorship.