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AIorNot ◴[] No.45123774[source]
I’m an AI engineer but I think schools need a nuclear option

Banish tech in schools (including cell phones) (except during comp classes) but allow it at home

Ie in high school only allow paper and pencil/pen

Go back to written exams (handwriting based)

Be lenient on spelling and grammer

Allow homework, digital tutoring AI assistants and AI only when it not primary- ie for homework not in class work

Bring back oral exams (in a limited way)

Encourage study groups in school but don’t allow digital tech in those groups in class or libraries only outside of campus or in computer labs

Give up iPads and Chromebooks and Pearson etc

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dham ◴[] No.45126590[source]
There's another side of this. The teachers have gotten used to technology, too. They don't want to grade papers by hand anymore.
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Balgair ◴[] No.45127909[source]
My SO was a TA in college, so I can echo this.

You'd get a stack of 120 blue books to grade in a week's time a few times a quarter.

The grading was entirely just checking if the student used a set of key words and had a certain length. This was a near universal method across the University for blue book exams.

Honestly, an LLM would be a better grader than most stressed out grad students.

Everyone has been phoning it in for a few centuries now

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AIorNot ◴[] No.45131030{3}[source]
No issues to me in using LLM for suggestive grading assuming we have some evidence on its grading rubric and paper trail to audit for appeals to human review - ie human teacher is responsible not LLM
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1. Balgair ◴[] No.45134058{4}[source]
Any audits will be quickly farmed out to yet another AI for review, is my guess.

I'd imagine some system like YTs appeals system, where everyone is maximally unhappy.

One anecdote from my SO's time as a grader was that pre med students were the worst. They would just wear you down to get the best possible grade, appealing literally every missed point ad nauseum. Most profs would give in eventually in the undergrad classes and not deal with them. Of course further emboldening them.

No other major was like that, only those dealing with the future hellscape that was US healthcare.

I'd imagine that, yes, eventually your appeals in the AI future will end up at a prof, but delayed to hell and back. Even paying $200k+ won't matter.