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WiFi signals can measure heart rate

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463 points bookofjoe | 10 comments | 04 Sep 25 14:53 UTC | HN request time: 0.224s | source | bottom
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onlypassingthru ◴[04 Sep 25 17:16 UTC] No.45129670[source]▶
No clunky wearables? No chest strap on the treadmill? Heart rate and respiration? Monitors everyone in the house simultaneously 24/7 on a cheap rpi? I hope this doesn't take years to come to market because this seems incredibly useful.
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1. transpute ◴[04 Sep 25 18:10 UTC] No.45130325[source]▶
There are positive sci-fi use cases, but ONLY IF the data and automation are entirely under control of the human subjects, e.g. self-hosted home server, local GPUs, local LLM, offline voice recognition, private 3D imaging of home and human, etc.
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2. fragmede ◴[04 Sep 25 18:38 UTC] No.45130690[source]▶
Comcast renting out wifi hardware to all of their customers, and already bringing that technology to the masses should be concerning to you then.
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3. transpute ◴[04 Sep 25 18:52 UTC] No.45130864[source]▶
Sensing is (sadly) already part of Wi-Fi 7. If you have a recent Intel, AMD or Qualcomm device from the past few years, it's likely physically capable of detecting human presence and/or activity (e.g. breathing rate, keystrokes, hand gestures). It can also be done with $20 ESP32 devices + OSS firmware. The open questions are on custody and legal usage of CSI measurements, not their existence.
4. wlesieutre ◴[04 Sep 25 19:33 UTC] No.45131333[source]▶
But think of how much money they can make by selling your health data to insurance companies!
5. throwway120385 ◴[04 Sep 25 19:45 UTC] No.45131457[source]▶
Yet another tool for our surveillance capitalism overlords to figure out when people are having sex.
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6. lo_zamoyski ◴[04 Sep 25 21:13 UTC] No.45132268{3}[source]▶
Alexa: "I sounds like you're having sex. Would you like me to play Vivaldi's Concerto Grosso in D minor on Spotify and schedule a breakfast delivery through GrubHub?"
7. bluGill ◴[04 Sep 25 22:42 UTC] No.45133061[source]▶
I don't want the data under my control - I want it under my doctors control. Except if it decects a coming heart attack or such, then notify every emt.
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8. transpute ◴[05 Sep 25 00:04 UTC] No.45133642[source]▶
If you have control of your data, then you can delegate to doctors, EMT or other agents.
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9. bluGill ◴[05 Sep 25 02:50 UTC] No.45134554{3}[source]▶
I want my doctor as agent to delegate to other specialists without consulting me. Most of the time it isn't needed but I don't want to be bothered for 'just double checking this is nothing' which should happen at times.
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10. transpute ◴[05 Sep 25 12:53 UTC] No.45137948{4}[source]▶
When you say, "I want", you need initial data control to give that instruction.

You can delegate to your doctor the right to delegate to other specialists without consulting you.

Other humans can delegate to the agents of their choice.

This is why the first step is for you to have control of your data, then you can specify/revoke who-does-what with it.