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156 points xbmcuser | 12 comments | | HN request time: 0.665s | source | bottom
1. dist-epoch ◴[] No.45127134[source]
Some of us call this "capitalism". Prices are driven by offer and demand, efficient market allocation to who can extract most value from a resource, we like that on HN.
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2. SoftTalker ◴[] No.45127199[source]
Prices are actually driven by value. How much do you want the thing? Do data centers value power? I would think so, since they cannot operate without it. Utilities should be charging them a premium.
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3. dist-epoch ◴[] No.45127230[source]
If utilities charge them a premium, why would they sell power to those which do not pay the premium instead of auctioning all power?
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4. datadrivenangel ◴[] No.45127235[source]
Things cost exactly what we pay for them.
5. ceejayoz ◴[] No.45127256[source]
And this is precisely why raw, unfettered capitalism isn't really the norm in the developed world.
6. LargeWu ◴[] No.45127258[source]
Captialism is really good at efficiency. But it is not so good at allocation, specifically for essential goods, and that's the problem here.
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7. LargeWu ◴[] No.45127285{3}[source]
Because they're theoretically regulated and ordered to do so. The market for power is not a free market due to the locally monopolistic nature of it.
8. terminalshort ◴[] No.45127458[source]
How do you define what is an essential good here? For electricity I would place most residential usage near the bottom in priority and definitely below a datacenter. People complaining about facing a tradeoff between setting the thermostat a couple degrees higher this summer or facing a higher power bill just doesn't get much sympathy from me.
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9. throw0101d ◴[] No.45127477[source]
> Prices are driven by offer and demand, efficient market allocation to who can extract most value from a resource, we like that on HN.

What is the value of the bottom-half of income earners being able to pay for heating and cooking?

10. jimbokun ◴[] No.45127683[source]
This is not capitalism because the laws are distorting the market, favoring large corporations over consumers.
11. jimbokun ◴[] No.45127715{3}[source]
Why do you want to subsidize the data centers of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in the world?
12. LargeWu ◴[] No.45127768{3}[source]
If you view powering people's homes as a lower priority than powering a data center then there is no reasonable discussion to be had here.