←back to thread

201 points sdsantos | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
fujigawa ◴[] No.45118394[source]
Commercial VPNs will go down as one of the greatest money-making schemes of the last decade. Outside of a few specific use cases their sales often rely on leveraging non-technical users' fear of what they don't fully understand.

I have non-technical friends and relatives that have fully bought into this and when I asked why they use a VPN I got non-specific answers like "you need it for security", "to prevent identity theft", or my personal favorite: "to protect my bank accounts".

Not a single person has said "I pay to route my traffic through an unknown intermediary to obscure its origin" or "I installed new root certificates to increase my security."

replies(16): >>45118443 #>>45118486 #>>45118558 #>>45118644 #>>45118672 #>>45118693 #>>45119064 #>>45119252 #>>45119261 #>>45119717 #>>45119817 #>>45119936 #>>45120136 #>>45120782 #>>45124630 #>>45126517 #
davepeck ◴[] No.45118558[source]
Long ago, in the era of Firesheep and exploding prevalence of coffee-shop Wi-Fi, consumer VPN services were definitely valuable.

But that was long ago. Now, HTTPS is the norm. The only use cases for consumer VPNs today seem to be (1) "pretend I'm in a different geography so I can stream that show I wanted to see" and (2) "torrent with slightly greater impunity".

I live in Seattle and Mullvad VPN seems to have bought approximately all of the ad space on public transit over the past couple months. Their messaging is all about "freeing the internet" and fighting the power. It's deeply silly and, I worry, probably quite good at attracting new customers who have no need for (or understanding of) VPNs whatsoever.

replies(11): >>45118660 #>>45118872 #>>45119025 #>>45119060 #>>45119163 #>>45119222 #>>45119386 #>>45119763 #>>45120306 #>>45124719 #>>45126754 #
1. wink ◴[] No.45126754[source]
You forgot 'connectivity from my home ISP to my favorite online game is temporarily degraded' but yeah ;)