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alex-moon ◴[] No.45124947[source]
I'm increasingly convinced that social isolation is the single great social ill of our time. I am not one for "respecting others' opinions" at all, make no mistakes, if someone believes something incorrect - or worse - then they need to be corrected. But so much of the hate simmering away like a pot about to boil over is the result of loneliness. The evidence on this is startingly clear.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235215462...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027795362...

https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/hate-lies-and-loneliness-f...

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999900000999 ◴[] No.45125200[source]
Had a chat about this with a friend yesterday.

In richer societies you can afford to be alone. This isn't good for tribal beings, humans didn't evolve as lone wolves. Even something as cooking for more than one person involves so much interaction.

At the lower end of the global income scale , you can't afford to be alone in your giant house. You might need to share communal goods.

Not everyone, but just having a role in society can be a major help for many people. The biggest crime of the modern era is the disposable human. You work for an anonymous corporation, that does some nonsense you can't even hope to understand, in exchange for currency, to support the basics of your existence.

You don't get to have any real status in that, for example In many places there was just one or two bread makers for the entire community. Baking bread isn't the most prestigious job, but you matter.

Tell me, fellow techy, working on serving ads. Who exactly would be disappointed if you failed in your duties today. Would anyone in your community be upset that they didn't get as many advertisements

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stavros ◴[] No.45125306[source]
You can't afford to be alone in any society. Not in the monetary sense, but in the sense that it will make you depressed. The fact that many people don't realize this is troubling.
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1. BobbyTables2 ◴[] No.45126669[source]
While very true, highly communal societies can be extremely toxic too.

Imagine not being able to get a job and having everyone actually gossiping about you. Pretty much middle school fears realized.

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2. stavros ◴[] No.45126838[source]
I don't have to imagine! I grew up in a village. On the whole, I think it's a plus, but you're right that this happens a lot.
3. derangedHorse ◴[] No.45137540[source]
If the society was truly communal, then the people able to employ you should be the same ones gossiping. The question then becomes why they won't employ you. I do agree that living communally can be unpleasant if you're an independent thinker with views different from everyone else in a way no one can appreciate.