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What is it like to be a bat?

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mistidoi ◴[] No.45119208[source]
Somebody used this paper to make the term batfished, which they defined as being fooled into ascribing subjectivity to a non-sentient actor (i.e. an AI).

https://partiallyexaminedlife.com/2025/06/30/what-is-it-like...

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nsriv ◴[] No.45120663[source]
I love this, hope it takes off like "enhsittification" or "slop" have already.
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IshKebab ◴[] No.45120970[source]
Uhgh "slop" is ok but "enshittification" was lame from the start.
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parpfish ◴[] No.45121528{3}[source]
Not only is it a terrible term, but it describes a concept that isn’t really worthy of having its own term. It’s really just a way of saying “people will make things worse over time”
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1. dmurray ◴[] No.45121600{4}[source]
No! Enshittification has a precise meaning, about how people will make things worse over time after making them good.

Mostly people make things better over time. My bed, my shower, my car are all better than I could reasonably have bought 50 years ago. But the peculiarities of software network effects - or of what venture capitalists believe about software network effects - mean that people should give things away below cost while continuing to make them better, and then one day switch to selling them for a profit and making them worse, while they seemingly could change nothing and not make them worse.

That's a particular phenomenon worthy of a name and the only problem with "enshittification" is that it's been co-opted to mean making things worse in general.

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2. cyberax ◴[] No.45121950[source]
> or of what venture capitalists believe about software network effects

It's not always that. After some time, software gets to a state where it's near the local maximum for usability. So any changes make the software _less_ usable.

But you don't get promoted in large tech companies unless you make changes. So that's how we get stuff like "liquid glass" or Android's UI degradatation.