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Who Owns, Operates, and Develops Your VPN Matters

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201 points sdsantos | 9 comments | 03 Sep 25 16:51 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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tetris11 ◴[03 Sep 25 17:44 UTC] No.45118548[source]▶
MullvadVPN seem to be pretty decent at the moment, but it looks like they're laying down a worldwide VPN infrastructure of sorts that other VPN companies can rent (similar to phone networks)

This makes me feel a little uneasy of their unstated longterm goals (corner the entire market), but I do think they are the most trustworthy out there right now

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1. timpera ◴[03 Sep 25 18:03 UTC] No.45118745[source]▶
I think Mullvad's market share is still pretty low compared to NordVPN, which actually cornered the market thanks to their suspiciously large advertising budget.
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2. pydry ◴[03 Sep 25 18:18 UTC] No.45118873[source]▶
Of the two im more suspicious that NordVPN is a CIA honeypot in the style of Crypto AG.
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3. giobox ◴[03 Sep 25 18:56 UTC] No.45119255[source]▶
I also think this is the scandal waiting to emerge in this space; with what we know from Snowden/CryptoAG/Encrypted message app sting operations etc it is borderline impossible for me to believe not one of the major players is owned by a State level intelligence service.
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4. Quarrelsome ◴[03 Sep 25 19:11 UTC] No.45119426[source]▶
and egregious marketing material. I think they're the ones who pushed the whole "its about security". I remember Tom Scott turning them down a lot because they wanted him to say that for the $$$ and he refused. Eventually I think they backed down and he got paid and did an ad for them without saying how it "improves security".
5. anon191928 ◴[03 Sep 25 19:12 UTC] No.45119427{3}[source]▶
they probably learned from past and this time it will not be publicly known. so that's another option
6. chollida1 ◴[03 Sep 25 19:32 UTC] No.45119617[source]▶
Based on what? They seem to be one of the reputable players in the industry.
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7. qingcharles ◴[04 Sep 25 03:33 UTC] No.45123240{3}[source]▶
That and all those Tor nodes too.
8. pydry ◴[04 Sep 25 08:14 UTC] No.45124900{3}[source]▶
Sheer level of advertising and marketing.
9. NoGravitas ◴[04 Sep 25 15:09 UTC] No.45128166{3}[source]▶
Kape Technologies, an Israeli firm with ties to Israeli intelligence, owns several well-known VPN companies, including PIA, ExpressVPN, and Cyberghost.

https://hackread.com/private-internet-access-pia-vpn-sold-is...