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fujigawa ◴[] No.45118394[source]
Commercial VPNs will go down as one of the greatest money-making schemes of the last decade. Outside of a few specific use cases their sales often rely on leveraging non-technical users' fear of what they don't fully understand.

I have non-technical friends and relatives that have fully bought into this and when I asked why they use a VPN I got non-specific answers like "you need it for security", "to prevent identity theft", or my personal favorite: "to protect my bank accounts".

Not a single person has said "I pay to route my traffic through an unknown intermediary to obscure its origin" or "I installed new root certificates to increase my security."

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tomrod ◴[] No.45118443[source]
Commercial VPNs do indeed vaguely promise to protect your data, access, etc.

For those of us that are technical but unschooled, what resources would you recommend we learn from?

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busterarm ◴[] No.45118477[source]
You can operate your own VPN (algovpn, openvpn, etc). There's low utility to doing so, but it's fairly straightforward these days.

Or run Tailscale (and a self-hosted DERP relay).

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1. martin_a ◴[] No.45118506[source]
I did this for a while in combination with a PiHole setup on a small vultr.com package.

Utility in that was that the traffic of all devices was routed through a "PiHoled VPN", so very little advertisements came through...

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2. giobox ◴[] No.45119204[source]
A cheap VPS instance + DNS with adblock + self hosted VPN used to be great until around ~5 years ago, when a great many websites (especially streaming sites) just started blocking any IP range associated with a VPS provider. I've given up using VPSes as VPN exit nodes now.